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Poll Results: Which layout do you use?

 
  • 76% (71)
    Qwerty
  • 11% (11)
    Dvorak
  • 9% (9)
    Colemak
  • 2% (2)
    Other? Please describe
93 Total Votes  
post #21 of 43
Sybink, there's no 'right place'. In fact, the only objectively 'proper' keyboard then would be a single line with the entire ASCII set in its proper order.
post #22 of 43
I want to learn Dvorak or Colemark but then whenever I use someone else's computer, I'll be screwed. :'(

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post #23 of 43
I've been wanting to learn either Dvorak or Colemak for the reasons attributed to its layout above, but seeing as how the rest of the world uses QWERTY or AZERTY I'm not sure if it's worth the trade off.
post #24 of 43
Hello,

Sorry syr... I didn't mean to cause confusion. Dvorak is a confusing layout because all of the keys are in a different order compared with QWERTY which is what I was relating to. I have used both over the years and it took me ages to get used to a Dvorak layout. Unfortunately I had no option working for an American organisation which meant all their keyboard where Dvorak. I stuck with it for a week and spoke to my manager if I could buy my own keyboard. I purchased my own locked it away in my desk draw when I finished work. It is confusing to use because you're so used to the keys being in the right place you feel like a n00b typing for the first time.

Example:

Q W E R T Y

" < > P Y F G C R L ? =
post #25 of 43
Oh, we are living in a senseless world. Qwerty is the defacto standard. Although we know that Colemak/Dvorak is a better alternative, most people are afraid to rock the boat.
post #26 of 43
I would be fine using another layout if QWERTY wasn't so entirely ingrained in everything computer related.

Having to "fight the system" 24/7 is just not worth it . If the world decides it is time to allow alternative layouts to become viable, I'll gladly switch. Of course, that means all public terminals need to start using keyboards with electronic key legends and allow users to switch between common layouts. It also means programmers need to start accepting that not everyone is going to use QWERTY and allow users to quickly switch between common formats for key bindings in games and other software.
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post #27 of 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

I would be fine using another layout if QWERTY wasn't so entirely ingrained in everything computer related.

Having to "fight the system" 24/7 is just not worth it . If the world decides it is time to allow alternative layouts to become viable, I'll gladly switch. Of course, that means all public terminals need to start using keyboards with electronic key legends and allow users to switch between common layouts. It also means programmers need to start accepting that not everyone is going to use QWERTY and allow users to quickly switch between common formats for key bindings in games and other software.

Exactly. I actually went through a stretch of learning how to use Dvorak, and I do agree that the motion going from key to key is a lot more natural. Unfortunately so many people use QWERTY that's it's literally impossible to use DVORAK as a main layout. Unless I go layout-ambidextrous, which I'm not sure I have the coordination for. I'm a vegan, so I know how hard it is to rock the boat :/
post #28 of 43
I am a Colemak user and I find no trouble typing in another Qwerty computer, since I have a small program which let you type in Colemak without installing anything.

http://www.ryanheise.com/colemak.exe

There is a similar Dvorak program named DVassist. Google for it.

So you don't have to fight the system at all. Just tweaks.
post #29 of 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony_VN View Post

I am a Colemak user and I find no trouble typing in another Qwerty computer, since I have a small program which let you type in Colemak without installing anything.

http://www.ryanheise.com/colemak.exe

There is a similar Dvorak program named DVassist. Google for it.

So you don't have to fight the system at all. Just tweaks.

You can't run exes from outside sources or change any windows settings on a great deal of school/work/public computers. Many of them don't even run windows to begin with.
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post #30 of 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

You can't run exes from outside sources or change any windows settings on a great deal of school/work/public computers. Many of them don't even run windows to begin with.

Oh, that's tough for Colemak or Dvorak users. My company let me do whatever I want to the computer at work, I even help the IT guys for some simple work around the office.
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