Originally Posted by Tator Tot
I suggest listening this time; I've been with review sites where people got the boot for acting like Tom Logan does. Or from taking money from Company X to either boast their product, or slam a product from a competitor.
Tom's rant on the case is nothing but minor details or overblown nonsense.
I do not defend NZXT. This case wouldn't win any awards from me as it's nothing astounding. But that doesn't make it bad.
Like I've said before, and like with most NZXT cases (Phantom & Tempest being exceptions) they need to make the side panels thicker. The flexibility of them adds to case vibrations.
That wasn't a scratch though, it was his skin coming off because of the texture of the case. Trust me, I did it too when I touched the thing. I also put a bit of 91% Iso on a paper towel and wiped it off.
Like I said as well, unless you put a good amount of force into it, that top fan cover is not coming off. He was forcing it off.
Besides the H.A.F. 912, none of those cases beat this one in base price. For an equally equipped case (HAF 912 Advanced) you'd spend the same in base price (MSRP.) All of those cases are 20-50% more on average, if not more.
Elegance is a point of opinion. Not fact.
The fan cover is not tacked on, I can state that. Believe it or not, but they've been toying with that idea and similar case designs for well over a year.
You "suggest listening this time" Is that so.
I made reference to his review. You gave a rebuttal. I not only -read- your rebuttal, but I disagreed with it point for point. That would have been very hard to do if I hadn't read it to begin with.
You obviously disagree.
For the second time: I saw the scratches. They are there in the video. The powdercoat is obviously marked. I'm not going to watch the review again just to give you a timestamp, but it's there. It's not "skin cells."
He bumped the fan cover and it nearly fell off the case. That's not a good amount of force. For that matter, the silly drive bay cover also on top of the case also comes off with slight pressure. Both of these pieces are silly, nonfunctional add-ons that ruin any "elegance" the case exterior may have had.
I named at least 2 other cases that match/beat it in price, and you apparently ignored both. The Lancool K62 (a 100 USD case) and the CM 690 II (a 90 USD case). "I suggest you listen next time."
Let us not even consider the Fractal R3, also in this price range, and also far superior.
Originally Posted by jivenjune
Um, no. This is not a fact. The case also has a 120mm fan that can be bottom mounted if the front fans aren't providing enough airflow. This would bypass the HDD restrictions from the start.
Look, I'll keep this simple. If the best a reviewer can come up with to compliment a case is "the front panel cables are black" then they are obviously trolling.
It IS a fact. You have 2 120mm fans behind a door, behind a dust cover, and then blowing over HDDs and THEN the SATA power and mobo connection cables to blow over. That will disturb airflow, period.
I'm sorry - but giving his opinion isn't trolling any more than you giving your's. I could say that "anyone that would defend this POS case is obviously trolling." ..That wouldn't make it true though, now would it?
Lay off Ad Hominem attacks when you are in a debate. "Anyone that disagrees with me is a troll/idiot/stupid" does not win the argument.
Originally Posted by defuz3d
well said, too many throughout this thread are posting that video... quite clearly Tom's (OC3D) little fanboyz I won't deny his videos are terrible and as Tator Tot has said the manner in which he reviewed this particular case is shocking. Its unfortunate he has such a big platform to spout his pathetic, unsavoury opinion he is very arrogant.
The review tab here: http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/classic_series/h2
clearly tells a different story to what has been said on this terrible video from oc3d.
Don't be pointing the "Tom Logan fanboy, OMGZ! lol!" Finger at me. I already pointed out several recent incidents where I thought his commentary was off the mark.
Again, Ad Hominem attacks do not win the argument for you. Neither do they help others take your opinion seriously.
Originally Posted by somebodysb2
Copied Fractal Design R3 / Lian Li B10 much?
Originally Posted by Derp
- "The foam feels REALLY cheap". How is quality foam supposed to feel? Are you going to open the door up and pet the foam?
- " This coating is just awful, look i can scratch it!" Why the hell are you clawing at the side of the case? Do you also scratch at your case throughout the day to groom your fingernails?
- "I still cant get this bloody side thing to work properly... URGH, yeah they're just BAD" RTFM, other review sites didn't seem to have a problem with them. DERP?
Add those awesome comments with him saying "n ZED
xt" and "aluminI
um" and you get a LOL out of me.
So do you never touch your case? Your fingernails never brush against it when you're building/wiring/moving/cleaning your case, as his did?
I hate to repeat myself, but those "tool less" clips for the optical drive -are- garbage. They're flimsy, difficult to open, and hold nothing. I don't need to take anyone's word for it. *points to Phantom*
Oh, and did you miss the part where.. He's British?
Originally Posted by FIXT
A little shameless self promotion here. Just uploaded our (Hardware Canucks) video of the NZXT H2 (I apologize for the clicking audio
Despite some of the comments I've read so far, in between a bit of a diatribe, Tom did hit some important points, some of which I touch on, and ultimately our conclusion is strikingly different than TPU, Metku, XtremeHardware & Vortez which all (strangely in my opinion) gave this case a overly glowing report. As with many things, it's likely just due to very differing opinions, and different reviewers expectations & values in a chassis, ESPECIALLY for this particular market (silent computing). Many of them mentioned the same things as us, but didn't place as much weight on the "downsides". Unlike some of the review sites, I don't give credit for "almost there" features, having some (IMO) poorly implemented solutions hurt the outcome more than it helped.
The final verdict is that the NZXT H2 is not by any means a bad case, it just doesn't bring anything new to the table, and fails to make any improvements, or even offer equal functionality) over similar priced competitors except for maybe having a slightly lower price tag.
I look at what the H2 COULD have been, and what consumers are being offered by NZXT in the retail product and lament because it really could have been a superb case and I think the market they are targeting, would have been willing to spend extra to get it.
Edit: Xnine: Rodney Reynolds? You've got to be joking.. I watched a review of some GSkill ram.. he spent at least 45 seconds braggiing about how high tech and awesome the clamshell packaging was. His PSU reviews are the worst. He's more like an infomercial than anything.Edited by pursuinginsanity - 3/24/11 at 2:51pm