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Honestly I don't see whats innovative about apple. They just continually refuse to move on with the times and brand it as "freedom, stability, ease of use, magic...".

I'm not saying they are horrible products. If you don't want to do anything other than photoshop, email, web browsing, and MS word, and do not care about cost or efficiency. Apple products rock.

But since when is that innovation?
I could type a BUNCH, but you may have what's known as confirmation blindness.

Apple users generally do more and use more software with a much lower TCO than a comparable PC user, statistically speaking.

That's the true measure of efficiency.
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*flamesuit on*

Well, there ARE lots of stupid people in this world...
Again, you are entitled to your own opinion and that's fine. You and many others in this thread feel that tabs are a waste of money, great. However, companies would not make these things if they weren't going to make them money.


I personally don't see a point for a tab for my own use either, (I love my 15" mbp for portability), but I also don't go around hating on others for what they spend their money on. If you want to buy a tablet, more power to you.

Tabs are here for a long while, until the next tech product comes around.
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Again, you are entitled to your own opinion and that's fine. You and many others in this thread feel that tabs are a waste of money, great. However, companies would not make these things if they weren't going to make them money.

I personally don't see a point for a tab for my own use either, (I love my 15" mbp for portability), but I also don't go around hating on others for what they spend their money on. If you want to buy a tablet, more power to you.

Tabs are here for a long while, until the next tech product comes around.
I dont think anyone here is saying "no one would ever buy such a thing" but rather "while im sure flocks of uninformed users will dish out their cash on a silver platter for these things, there is really no good reason to".

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I could type a BUNCH, but you may have what's known as confirmation blindness.

Apple users generally do more and use more software with a much lower TCO than a comparable PC user, statistically speaking.

That's the true measure of efficiency.
The question isnt wether or not people use them more efficiently, its wether or not they are CAPABLE. Millions of people around the world drink diet coke but its not more efficient than drinking water.

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Smartphones, music, mp3 players, tablets, ultra portable computers, etc etc. Apple has wildly advanced each of these fields, and if you want to get into the nitty gritty, you can get into areas such as displays and multitouch. Even advertising and retail. Virtually every business they're in, they are copied by everyone else. That's not fanboyism, that's a fact of life.
And how many of these did apple actually create or innovate? Perhaps we are using diffrent definitions of innovation. Mine isnt defined as taking a 10 year old product from another company and relaunching it with modernized technology and a trendy ad campaign.
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And how many of these did apple actually create or innovate? Perhaps we are using diffrent definitions of innovation. Mine isnt defined as taking a 10 year old product from another company and relaunching it with modernized technology and a trendy ad campaign.
Why do you think Apple is #1 in innovation for all US company for 4 years straight, as judged by Fortune 500 business leaders.

They must think highly of 10 yo rehashing. But you obviously think youre better informed and smarter than the Fortune 500 companies.
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Why do you think Apple is #1 in innovation for all US company for 4 years straight, as judged by Fortune 500 business leaders.

They must think highly of 10 yo rehashing. But you obviously think youre better informed and smarter than the Fortune 500 companies.
Last I heard fortune 500 companies care about money, not a single thing else.

If they can bastardize the word "innovation" to mean "rehashed product relaunched for the 6th time but this time it was actually popular and sold really well and since no one remembers the previous version we can spin this off as unique and original" and people will think highly of it, why wouldnt they?

I dont think im better informed than they are. I'm just informed to begin with, with the fact that they couldnt care less about integrity when it doesnt cause a loss in revenue. Of course that may mean I am more informed than SOME users here.
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And how many of these did apple actually create or innovate? Perhaps we are using diffrent definitions of innovation. Mine isnt defined as taking a 10 year old product from another company and relaunching it with modernized technology and a trendy ad campaign.
If you want to define the word "innovate":

–verb (used without object)
1.
to introduce something new; make changes in anything established.

–verb (used with object)
2.
to introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time: to innovate a computer operating system.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innovate

The first definition of the word is arguably the most understood meaning.

Maybe you're confusing it with 'invent'?
 
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Maybe you're confusing it with 'invent'?
I think he is. As far as Apple go they are innovators, but firmly placed in the incremental innovation area and not radical. This is generally what happens with larger firms anyway because they are less flexible.
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They've finally done it. The 10.1 wifi 16GB version is priced just right.
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Last I heard fortune 500 companies care about money, not a single thing else.

If they can bastardize the word "innovation" to mean "rehashed product relaunched for the 6th time but this time it was actually popular and sold really well and since no one remembers the previous version we can spin this off as unique and original" and people will think highly of it, why wouldnt they?

I dont think im better informed than they are. I'm just informed to begin with, with the fact that they couldnt care less about integrity when it doesnt cause a loss in revenue. Of course that may mean I am more informed than SOME users here.
If by "rehashed" you mean taking an idea that was flawed / in its infancy originally, and making it into something that is actually appealing to a consumer, then I agree that Apple have taken ideas that already existed and made them work. However, this is how it is done in the real world. As a company you can't try unproven ideas. You take an existing idea / product that has potential and work with it. Now in the background, yes as a company you do need to work on original ideas. However, these ideas can't be the only bread and butter put on the table by your business.

I find it interesting that people always rip on Apple for just rehashing existing ideas when they turn a blind eye to so many other companies.

You don't see people complaining that Intel is going to rehash Sandy Bridge when they release Ivy Bridge. Or that nVidia and AMD are just going to release a slightly refined version of their current GPU designs.

Do companies release new innovative products? Yes, but it is infrequent and takes time. (New GPU / CPU designs, etc)


On Topic: IMO if Android based tablets want to take on iPad 2 they need to price them a lot less. The 8.9 16GB WiFi tablet needs to be $299.99 and the 10.1 sized one needs to be $349.99.
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why are we even arguing about a $500 tablet when you could get a gtx 580 for the same price?
    
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