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No threads like that for any other GTX card in the 4xx or 5xx series. So it seems as though there may be a significant issue with the cards. That is part of my confusion/remorse. No thread of fried 560s or 580s
I'm certain there are lots of dead 4xx and 5xx cards, the only reason the 570 is getting more attention is due its high failure rate at 1.1v+.
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So Stefy, sounds like you think keeping the 570 when it comes and proceeding with the original plan is a solid one? Any concerns that come Nov, the Skyrim engine will bring a 570 to its knees and I will wish i waited to use that $350 later?

(I'm selling them now because my brother is getting a new system and Im selling him one of the 460's used, which spurred this whole thing)
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They were all running their cards out of spec. AKA overclocked. Some of them were below 1.1v but were overclocked. 800 core is tops I see with factory overclocked cards.

With that being said, the highest factory overclock is about 797Mhz. Stock is 732. So, after seeing people killing their cards,

Just keep the 570 and be conservative with your overclocks.

From the looks of it, it has all be VRM failure. So either:

1) The cards are pulling too much juice and the VRMs cannot handel it
2) VRMs were faulty and failed
3) They are using substandard VRMs.
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I've fried a 570 recently. They won't die at stock volts sir, I was pumping 1.1v. which is 0.163v higher than my stock VID. Only 12 cards have died so far, I have the full intent of using the RMA which I'm expecting to arrive in 2 weeks. As far as performance, don't kid yourself, the 560 ti overclocked can beat 570 gtx at stock clocks just how a overclocked 570 gtx overclocked can beat a 580 gtx at stock clocks, this is old news. The performance on 570 is stellar, any way you put it and most will reach 900 core/2100 memory.

If the 570's were as weak as people think they are, we would see a lot more than 12 dead cards, almost 4 months after release, especially on a forum of this nature where people love pushing their hardware to it's limits.

Consider my opinion biased as I am anti SLI, if you put sli into the equation the 560 ti in SLI is more than enough for modern day gaming on a regular 1080p single monitor.
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So Stefy, sounds like you think keeping the 570 when it comes and proceeding with the original plan is a solid one? Any concerns that come Nov, the Skyrim engine will bring a 570 to its knees and I will wish i waited to use that $350 later?

(I'm selling them now because my brother is getting a new system and Im selling him one of the 460's used, which spurred this whole thing)
I have no idea regarding the Skyrim engine, have yet to check it out. The 570 is definitely a better card than the 560. But if you're really concerned, why not just wait 6xx or 7xxx series to come out? If you need the card now though, the 570 is certainly a good choice. You could also consider the cheaper 6950 and go CF later.
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They were all running their cards out of spec. AKA overclocked. Some of them were below 1.1v but were overclocked. 800 core is tops I see with factory overclocked cards.

With that being said, it looks like the cards pull a ton juice above 800 core.

Just keep the 570 and be conservative with your overclocks.
But if I can go hardcore on OC on a 560ti vs being conservative on an OC from a 570, does the 560ti, is the max performance of both cards pretty close then?

It looks like the stock 570 only pulls 5-15 FPS over the stock 560. If the 560 can OC more than the 570, then it should be able to close that gap some. At that point, 0-10 FPS isn't worth $100 more, higher power draw, higher temps, higher noise and the mental uneasiness of waiting for the VRM's to blow lol.

You know?
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If you took the 570 to 800 core, you could probably destroy the 560. But it really is your choice. Your 460s at 850-900MHz would be far stronger than a stock 570 period.
 
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I've fried a 570 recently. They won't die at stock volts sir, I was pumping 1.1v. which is 0.163v higher than my stock VID. the 560 ti overclocked can beat 570 gtx at stock clocks just how a overclocked 570 gtx overclocked can beat a 580 gtx at stock clocks, this is old news.
Of course. But if the 560 has higher OC headroom then a fully OC'd 560 might match a conservatively OC'd 570? That's a major question of mine.

The Gigabyte 560 SOC is 950 mhz stock (std 822). So does a 950mhz 560 beat or get close to an 800 mhz 570? Wish i could find a bench series for that lol.

If it gets very close to the 570, while using less power and saving me $100 in the process, it might make more sense to get the 560.

As far as ATI/AMD goes, I dislike them and have had multiple bad experiences. I stay away. Also, I do not want to SLi again.
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If really bothered by the 570 death threads here and on other forums, then go with a nonreference 570 like from Gigabyte or Asus with the increased number of power phases over a reference 570.

I'd go with a 570 over a 560 cuz that extra little bit of horsepower might come in handy down the road.
    
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Of course. But if the 560 has higher OC headroom then a fully OC'd 560 might match a conservatively OC'd 570? That's a major question of mine.

The Gigabyte 560 SOC is 950 mhz stock (std 822). So does a 950mhz 560 beat or get close to an 800 mhz 570? Wish i could find a bench series for that lol.

If it gets very close to the 570, while using less power and saving me $100 in the process, it might make more sense to get the 560.

As far as ATI/AMD goes, I dislike them and have had multiple bad experiences. I stay away. Also, I do not want to SLi again.
Then definitely get a 570 or 580 imo. The 570 has slightly more Vram and is a faster card even though with less OC headroom.
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