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Keep a 460 and the 570. Run the second screen on the 460. That is how I am running mine except with a 8800gts. Works beautifully and keeps all the graphics load of the second monitor off the 570. Plus you can let that second card do double duty as a phsyx card as well. Then sell one of your 460's to offset the cost a little.

I love my 570 and am really debating sticking another right beside it. Can get it pretty cheap atm. Of course your performance gains won't be as drastic as mine was as I stepped up from the 8800 to the 570.

I call bs on the blowing up at stock voltages. I have run mine above stock voltages since day one. Mind you not maxed out but substantial enough and it runs along just fine. Just be sure to adjust fan profile accordingly Stock profile really no beuno.
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mmhmm, had my EVGA running 1.1v at 950 for over a month with at least 10 hours of OCCT through that.
Glad you got a card that will take it. There are many people out there that killed there 570, look at the old thread on here.

There is nothing wrong with a 570, The reason why I took mine back is bc I do not want to have to RMA the card in 6 months bc of the overclock I am running.
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post #103 of 124
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15% is alot.
At high resolutions with the goodies on, it turns into 18-22% in several titles.
In some titles, perhaps. In others the gap is considerably closer. Even using the bench link you posted:




On average the performance gap isn't massive at any given res.

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It can be the difference of turning down or off some goodies/features/resolution.
The same thing happens between a 580 and 570 when the 580 is cranked up.
Indeed, though that's not really a concern at 1080p, where the OP is gaming. A single 460/465/470 can deliver very playable fps in most games at high settings at that res.

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The 560 loses to a 570. The 570 loses to a 580, but the gap between the 570-560 is larger.
Not really. Nvidia spaced the 500 series out fairly evenly in terms of performance. It really just comes down to budget and your gaming needs

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Originally Posted by LivingChampion View Post
mmhmm, had my EVGA running 1.1v at 950 for over a month with at least 10 hours of OCCT through that.
What are the "standard settings" for OCCT GPU test?

I am seeing very different numbers for res and shader complex.

What are you guys all using for your OCCT?

EDIT 1: Just did a 15-minute run at 850mhz @ 1050mv and got 30 errors. I'm new to OCCT... is that good / acceptable? Settings 1024x768, shader comp 3

EDIT 2: Another 15 minute run. 900mhz @ 1088mv and got 0 errors.

How long do you need to run OCCT to claim it's stable? I have heard if it's going to error it will error in the first 10 mins. Is this true?
Edited by RomeSC - 3/24/11 at 6:25pm
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In some titles, perhaps.
Several.

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In others the gap is considerably closer. Even using the bench link you posted
Not really.
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Hey amstech. How did you test your OC to determine if it was stable?
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Originally Posted by amstech View Post
15% is alot.
At high resolutions with the goodies on, it turns into 18-22% in several titles.

It can be the difference of turning down or off some goodies/features/resolution.
The same thing happens between a 580 and 570 when the 580 is cranked up.

I knew I could get reliable 580 performance with my 570.
You cannot do that with a 560. Period.

The 560 loses to a 570. The 570 loses to a 580, but the gap between the 570-560 is larger.
Considering the 560's price tag they have it about right for its performance.
15% extra performance on a game where you get 20 FPS is equal to 23 FPS which is still unplayable.

15% on top of the $250 price tag means you'd have to pay only $280 not $350.

Not saying that the GTX 570 is a bad card but it's not a best buy.
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15% extra performance on a game where you get 20 FPS is equal to 23 FPS which is still unplayable.

15% on top of the $250 price tag means you'd have to pay only $280 not $350.

Not saying that the GTX 570 is a bad card but it's not a best buy.
I'm unable to run the heaven benchmark at 900 mhz at 1.1v

I'm thinking this card might not clock high enough to keep it. MAN it stays COOL though. With the fan set at 55% ( highest % before I hear it over my case fans) the card never cracked 65 degrees in OCCT.

The quiet and coolness of this card makes me want to try the 560 Ti Twin Frozr edition... but the low OC potential at max safe volts makes me want to avoid the MSI one...

I bought a gigabyte 460 windforce model and it screwed up my audio... so bizarre, but when I used any other vid card my audio was fine. With the gigabyte 460 my audio kept skipping. So Im afraid of the gigabyte 560 now, even though its the superior 560 card.

I wanted a card I could buy and not have to upgrade for 2-3 years. I don't think a 560 is it... unfortunately, I'm not sure the 570 is either (with this low OC headroom) so I can't help but want the $100 difference back.

All you guys with your stated 905 mhz at 1050mv... how are you stability testing that? Seems odd that i can't pull 900 at 1.1v.

Best completed heaven benchmark without crashing is 850mhz at 1088mv. Seems to be much lower than most doesn't it?
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Frying 570's on stock voltage? I'm calling BS. They do have weak voltage regulation compared to earlier fermi cards, but they also have built in protection. The only dead 570's I have seen are ones with the voltage protection disabled, and the vcore running well over 1.1v (max safe voltage). The problem is that Nvidia decided on 4 phase power regulation on the 570, and the VRMs are not cooled sufficiently with the reference cooler. The 4 phase power regulation is enough for stock clocks, but not much more without causing the temps to skyrocket. This causes OC percentages to be lower than on other fermi cards. As long as you know this going in, and don't try to pump 1.5v or some other ridiculous amount through it, you'll be fine. Also look into either buying one with a non-reference cooler, or adding better cooling later to counteract the stress on the VRMs. My Gigabyte card provides sufficient cooling for the VRMs, and some other models do too.

Don't expect miracles from it. My 900/1800/2000 @1.038v OC is not the best, but it's considered a good OC for this particular chip. I don't get the bragging rights from a 1Ghz GPU, but I can play any game I want with high graphics settings, and I'm cranking out close to 20kPPD in F@H. I made the right choice going with this card.
I've seen reports of it frying with the stock voltages if you turn the limiter off... my DirectCU II version OCs like a champ with no worry about my card frying.
    
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I say if you dont wanna dick around with a possible RMA down the road, send it back and get the 560 TI and overclock the hell out of it for ease of mind. I just got my GTX 570 TF II and I have so far got it so 850/2200 @ 1v and prob just see what i can hit at that voltage and not go higher till i register the warranty on it.
 
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