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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
Sure: There's no proof and no claim from anyone worth mentioning that they did.

You guys bring in the argument that Sony paid off the courts. Back that up with proof. It's not OUR job to show you that they didn't.
Can you quote where i stated that I said Sony paid off the courts? Dont worry ill wait.
post #122 of 260
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Originally Posted by M1nUrThr3t View Post
Yeah but they were aware of PSP jailbreaking as well, but made no actions then. I think they did this due to something other than protecting their systems security. I think they are doing it more as retaliation for GH making them look like a bunch of donkeys. imo
Or they're doing it because the PS3 was way more profitable than the PSP.
post #123 of 260
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post
No, you cannot make anyone do anything they don't want to do. I suppose there's extreme circumstances, such as putting a gun in someone's mouth and telling them what to do. That's neither here nor there with this case.

If Geohot was such a badass and didn't do anything illegal, he'd have nothing to worry about. Instead, he's pretty much admitting to the alleged crimes Sony is pursuing him for by running.

I don't feel bad for him at all. He's not God, he's not a hero to anyone. He broke the law, he knows it, and instead of being a responsible human being and an adult facing his punishment, he's decided to run away like the coward he is.

If he thought American Jail would be bad, just wait til those South American drug lords find his pasty ass.
do people even read the news anymore? do you even try to find out what is really going on? or do you just jump on the first wagon that comes in?

if you were even in the slightest concerned about this case, or what has "developed" in it, sony is the one accusing him of "fleeing", they are still in the evidence gathering phase of the case, as far as i know, no court date has been set, no jury has been chosen, they are still having litigation that involves where the case should be tried at...

you should read up on civil law, he is basically refusing to hand over his personal property, that could potentially contain private and confidential information. in several motions he has made, he has stated it could be damaging to him and his business associates if this information was accidentally leaked to a competitor (which is protected by civil law, if any thing, the judge that authorized the search and seizure, spero, over stepped his legal authority by authorizing such fishing expedition, and should be investigated)

you argue for Sony's Intellectual Property rights, but what about his rights to privacy and confidentiality?

all that has been really released, the reason why he wont hand over the remaining of the harddrives or information that was previously contained on the harddrives that he removed, is that he is not available to do so, cause he is in south america, doesn't even state where he is at in south america...

it is not like he committed murder, tortured, robbed, burned down a house full of orphans, sold drugs to a 8 year old, killed a family of 5 driving home from disney world with him being drunk behind the wheel...he hacked proprietary software to use hardware he purchased...yeah where's my pitch fork...there shall be a witch hunt tonight!
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post #124 of 260
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Instead of going after him, why not just hire him? Plenty of top companies have hired hackers to their security teams.
Thats what im saying. He even put it out there. Give the kid a job and improve your security instead of making people bad mouth you.
post #125 of 260
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post
Instead of going after him, why not just hire him? Plenty of top companies have hired hackers to their security teams.
This is Sony we are talking about. They have the arrogance to think people would bend over and adopt every single dumb proprietary standard they create.

Sony is not that type of a company.
post #126 of 260
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Originally Posted by t3lancer2006 View Post
Or they're doing it because the PS3 was way more profitable than the PSP.
No. Sony has not made a ton of profit off the system. They barely started to a couple years back. Dont remember where I read it but they had posted the stats that Sony was barely making any money off they system.
post #127 of 260
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This is Sony we are talking about. They have the arrogance to think people would bend over and adopt every single dumb proprietary standard they create.

Sony is not that type of a company.
No they're not, they're the type of company to try and protect their own IP, and in the process, everyone is looking at them like they're devil.
post #128 of 260
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Originally Posted by M1nUrThr3t View Post
Can you quote where i stated that I said Sony paid off the courts? Dont worry ill wait.
I said "you guys," not you. Here:

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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
Sony already bought the judges and the courts.
Yea, amazing statement with great strengthening evidence.

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Originally Posted by t3lancer2006 View Post
Or they're doing it because the PS3 was way more profitable than the PSP.
PS3 was sold at cost up until the slim came out, and was possibly still sold at cost after it did. The only profit Sony sees from PS3 is from accessory sales, game sales, and digital PSN sales.

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The first PlayStation 3s to hit the market cost the company a whopping $90 dollars for each one sold. Now it seems that they’ve slashed that number by about 80% to only $18. They even think that by 2011, they’ll actually be able to turn a profit on their hardware.
http://watchplayread.com/hey-xbox-fa...ach-unit-sold/
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post #129 of 260
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Have you ever heard of the rules of Supply & Demand?

When you can get everything for free online anyway, what demand would there be? Even kids know how to download stuff or stream it online for free.

There is a lot of money being pushed to end piracy, don't forget that Microsoft and many other major corporations, like ISPs are being fed this money too, so the end of piracy is not far off, of this, I'm fairly certain...

If they throttle and cap the hell out of the internet, that's going to make it really hard for pirates... Considering they are already monitoring traffic like a hawk and in the process of making just streaming illegal content a felony, that means many people would be terrified to upload anything...

Not to mention that they are seizing websites much faster now that they have full authority to do so, the end of piracy is a battle I think the movie & music industry would be willing to pay many billions of dollars to see...

Considering how much money these corporations make every year from the entertainment industry alone, I doubt pirates will be able to continue for much longer..

I could be wrong in my assessment of the situation, but GeoHot is a prime example of what they are willing to do to put an end to piracy, and apparently that means even going after kids too.. (Parents beware!)

Now that we have heard the story of GeoHot and how it will probably end, bad, we can either gleam some wisdom from all of this, or refuse to hear the corporations' money which is screaming pretty darn loud right now..

When billions of dollars are up for grabs you can rest assured the real hackers out there will be hard at work in claiming some of the prize money to end piracy.

Of this I'm 100% certain...
Well that is the thing the people here at technologically ignorant. Even the government and institutions are. That is why it is a heaven for some people like geohotz.

You could burn a disc and then go and sell the disc to a local high school guard (not that i would ever dare but i see it every single day). It is crazy pirating is not going away here anytime soon. Also huge demand for jailbroken iphones here i have jailbroken hundreds of iphones here for people. He could easily keep working on his jailbreak's ect in a country like this without ever being bothered
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and now is running away from his problems, which isn't a solution either..
Why not?

Running often works, and if fighting means certain defeat, what other choice is there?

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That was the dumbest thing to do. Had he won the case, he could've counter sued Sony for damages and made A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

He ran because he is an arrogant coward and won't own up to his mistakes.
Did you not read the story?

GeoHot lied, and his lies were blatant and transparent. His case was lost. He had no chance of winning.

He ran because he had more to lose by staying. If that qualifies as not owning up to ones mistakes, why should anyone ever own up to their mistakes?

Put it this way. Lets say you were captured by some insurgents in your last tour in Iraq. Let's say they had found you guilty of some distorted BS that you did not agree with, and the punishment they had in mind was not pleasant. If the opportunity to escape presents itself, are you going to stay to face their consequences? If owning up to your mistake (getting caught) means you suffer for something you do not think is wrong, why would you stay?
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