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Originally Posted by Spunkybd View Post
So everyone that donated to his cause will likely sue him, cause he said it was all for court fees.

Now hes in over his head.... This was a mistake, you take your punches and fight.. You dont run away.
Well fleeing the courts could be construed as a fee too!
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Why didnt GeoHot destroy his PS3's and the drives? They are his afterall, and i doubt you can recover anything from a smashed drive.
    
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Actually, I'm quite up to date. If YOU haven't recently read, there's ongoing talks about just how much access Sony is privy to when it comes to his hardware, and what information they can use.

If a court mandates that he hands over his hardware, then it's not asking him to do so, it's telling him to do so. Not doing so by leaving the country is a flagrant disregard for the law and the court. Which is a CRIMINAL act and not a civil one.

It's a shame that he couldn't have just created his own OS to throw on the machine instead of completely manipulating Sony's code. I really wish he'd done that, it would save a lot of hassle on both sides and those that want to run Linux on the PS3 (the whole 1-2 million people that actually wanted to prior to this).

I'm not on any bandwagon. In fact I can guarantee I've read more into this than you or the majority of his "followers" have. Troll elsewhere mcnubbins.
i have read all the articles that have "involved" this case.

i've been in civil litigations and have been sued before...

i at least know the difference between civil and criminal law, you've already showed you ignorance of this:

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If he thought American Jail would be bad, just wait til those South American drug lords find his pasty ass.
you can't go to jail for loosing a civil case, you aren't even found guilty or innocent of a crime, just liable or not liable for damages (typically you amend for the damages by reward of a monetary settlement).

in a civil case, the "burden of proof" isn't even "beyond reasonable doubt", it is "preponderance of evidence" and "clear and convincing evidence".

so i'm trolling cause my opinion of the matter differs than yours, and what i took from reading the articles, differ than yours...no where in the current article does it state that any court of law has said he has "fled" to avoid this case, sony has made the claim:

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"After Magistrate Judge Spero ordered an inspection of Hotz's devices and ordered Hotz to appear at a deposition in California, SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral," the motion read.
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Though the evidence establishing personal jurisdiction is already overwhelming,
SCEA has little doubt that there is much more. However, over the last several weeks
Hotz has engaged in a campaign to thwart jurisdictional discovery at every turn –
regardless of whether the Court has ordered such discovery or not. Most seriously, after
Magistrate Judge Spero ordered an inspection of Hotz’s devices and ordered Hotz to
appear at a deposition in California, SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed
integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party
neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately
provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral. Hotz’s attempts
to dodge this Court’s authority raise very serious questions.
The Actual Sony Motion

he actually has the right to appeal the subpoena for his harddrives, personal property, documents, etc...if i am not mistaken, his appeal hasn't been shot down yet, if i am please provide me with the correct link...so he can withhold that information till his appeal goes through, or the motion for appeal is shot down...
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No offense but that's a terrible analogy(Perhaps you meant it to be to illustrate your point? I hope so).
how is that terrible? he said geo thought about selling a hack he had done, but he didnt...but everyone is saying "OHH, ohh, he thought about it so therefore he is for piracy!@!!!!!!" thinking about doing something is one thing doing it is another. its the same thing, thinking about something and then not doing it but being introuble just like you did it...
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I'm really disappointed in geohot. He betrayed everything he stood for by running away (or at least everything he pretended to stand for, for those arguing he's just a pirate)
Had he stayed and fought, even if he would have ended up being guilty, he would have dealt a heavy PR blow to Sony.
In the end staying would have been more beneficial for him. Just look at Kevin Mitnick for example. He did the time even though he was innocent, but now he's a legend. (of course Mitnick is much smarter and his actions aren't as controversial)
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So everyone that donated to his cause will likely sue him, cause he said it was all for court fees.

Now hes in over his head.... This was a mistake, you take your punches and fight.. You dont run away.
Do you fail to understand the 2 most basic human behaviors? Along with almost every other mamal, FIGHT OR FLIGHT. He chose flight, who cares?
    
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Why didnt GeoHot destroy his PS3's and the drives? They are his afterall, and i doubt you can recover anything from a smashed drive.
Man that's probably over $1,000 surely, not to mention all the time it takes to like accumulate all that data, whoosh!

I'd say make a hard copy of the data (3 copies), and mail or stick them somewhere secure, like an airport locker or something...
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he actually has the right to appeal the subpoena for his harddrives, personal property, documents, etc...if i am not mistaken, his appeal hasn't been shot down yet, if i am please provide me with the correct link...so he can withhold that information till his appeal goes through, or the motion for appeal is shot down...
Ya, but look at it from his point of view. Sony requested tons of info on him and people who followed or posted on his stuff, which he appealed and should have won, but sony got what they want. Google even denied Sony's request, but was eventually oredered to hand it over.

i do agree with your point though.
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It was a purely a joke mate.. No trolls about it..
I know it just made me LoL
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he could have done anythign he wanted ot the hard drives before the search warrant was given to him. hell his lawyer could have called and told him they were comming and he deleted everything and still didnt break any laws. sony is just mad that they got screwed
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