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post #251 of 260
all you nerds have to realize the world doesnt revolve around USA.
theres tons of bank robbers, murderers, that havent been caught and will most likely not be caught...take a look at the fbi want-eds, theyve been on there for years...people rob banks with clear faces on camera and cant be caught

hes gonna be enjoying himself in south america while you nerds sit in this criminal breeding country. where you get a felony for selling a small pack of steroids and treated the same as murder/burglary
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Being able to afford a team of talented lawyers that gives you an advantage is not the same as buying the courts/judges. I don't think that Sony has specifically bought anyone. Sure the industry as a whole has unfair and overly broad influence because of the lobbying they can afford to do, but that's not the same either.
Not singling you out here.. but anyone who honestly believes that Sony as a corporation or the lawyers they have hired have not had any undue influence to get some of the things they have accomplished in this lil affair are seriously living a naive life or have never had the opportunity or experience to peek behind the curtain of what is big money business.

Sad to say but our legal and governmental apparatuses are more susceptible to being twisted to the whim of large corporations because of the MANY ways they can bring about influence... from "charitable donations" that are written off as tax breaks, to providing "off the books" favors for people in places of power or to the people near those in power...the list of ways a corporation like Sony can create an outcome more to their liking is long and I do not fault GeoHot for recognizing that because of this and the fact that this was going to civil court (which carries a ridiculously low burden of proof and leaves it on the defendant to to prove otherwise), he had neither the means or the backing to take on a company like Sony in this scenario.

Would I say all of what Geo has done is smart? Nope, but he definitely had a very BAD set of choices - staying and trying to fight this in civil court could honestly turn out far worse than his decision to run...

And even if he is merely on vacation - he has a steep mountain to climb in court; and Sony knows they lack the means to really nail him to the wall - otherwise this would be in criminal court... instead they are attempting a war of attrition as part of a fishing expedition in order to GET what they need to get a criminal trial and a precedent they WANT. Many corporations are willing to lose lots of money in trials just to set precedent.
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meh i supported him, now it's like... stupid
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So much for "I'm not worried about it, I'm not loosing any sleep over it."
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In a lame attempt to direct traffic to their pathetic websites, some sources are now reporting that Geohot has "fled" the country after court documents reveal a PSN account alleged to belong to him. Normally, we would not report on something so completely ridiculous but, unfortunately, this nonsense is starting to spread to mainstream websites.

Hotz is currently on vacation in a South American country. As common sense would dictate, there is no reason to "flee" from a civil case. These sites have based their claims on misinterpretations of the court documents and an image (see below) posted on Geohot's blog. Way to put two and two together, guys!

In the future, we recommend only getting your news from reputable sites, not random video game blogs. When there's something real to report on the case, you''ll read it here, as always. For the record, we are referring to the original source of the article, which is some random video game blog, not any of the other scene sites who posted it. It's not their fault they got duped. Even legit mainstream news sites are posting it now. Unfortunately, this could have serious consequences on the case, even though it a total fabrication.

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Actually, this could be good for him. If Sony is the one who started this rumor, he has a good chance of suing them for slander.
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PSX-Scene




thanks for posting that before me LOL

lols at the kids still posting on 1st post.

mod please /thread
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Well looks like the US Marshal Service and the FBI and going to have to hunt him down.

This guy just made Sony's case for them.
So many stupid damn kids on this site.

Do i really have to explain?

FBI is domestic operations ONLY. I repeat, ONLY.

This is not a criminal case, even if it was, the FBI wouldnt be any interest.

Marshall service? If your outside of any country, only the country your in has any power over you.

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In a lame attempt to direct traffic to their pathetic websites, some sources are now reporting that Geohot has "fled" the country after court documents reveal a PSN account alleged to belong to him. Normally, we would not report on something so completely ridiculous but, unfortunately, this nonsense is starting to spread to mainstream websites.

Hotz is currently on vacation in a South American country. As common sense would dictate, there is no reason to "flee" from a civil case. These sites have based their claims on misinterpretations of the court documents and an image (see below) posted on Geohot's blog. Way to put two and two together, guys!

In the future, we recommend only getting your news from reputable sites, not random video game blogs. When there's something real to report on the case, you''ll read it here, as always. For the record, we are referring to the original source of the article, which is some random video game blog, not any of the other scene sites who posted it. It's not their fault they got duped. Even legit mainstream news sites are posting it now. Unfortunately, this could have serious consequences on the case, even though it a total fabrication.
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i as well think i come of perceived wrongly.

i'm not trying to say what geohotz did was "legal" or even "right". i do think sony has "convinced" a judge with a serious lack of judgement, to allow them to subpoena and retrieve information that goes beyond the scope of this "civil trial".

if anything, the one thing i was hoping this trial would expose, would be eula's...as they limit, well into laws, your rights as a consumer, they hamper most of the time "fair use", "second hand sale doctorine", and aren't properly presented, read, and understood before money exchanges hands for said products...and in most cases, there is no way to for you to get reimbursed if you do disagree with it...
Ah, gotcha. Ok. Well, it seems as just a simple misunderstanding as we're both looking at it the same but from different persepctives.

I agree that EULA's really muddy the water, but then, is there a better way to enforce laws and protect consumers (not just from companies, but from OTHER consumers as well) and companies from abusive consumers?

Hard to say. We definitely don't have a perfect system, but then, if we did, neither of us would be talking about this subject.
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This thread should be closed as it violates OCN's ToS anyways by discussing Politics. Which this thread obviously is.
Agreed and done.
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