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sony should be hiring this kid not sueing him. What the hell
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Stupid move. This pretty much admits that he knows what he did was illegal. He should've stood up and fought the battle which wouldve not only pretty much ensured he won in court but wouldnt have messed his life up anymore then he already had, and probably made it better after he won.

Even though alot of you guy are sympathetic to him, dont donate. Find someone who will atleast stick up for what they've done even if they lose.
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On January 12, 2011, Hotz submitted a declaration to the Court (Docket No. 19-1) in which he made unequivocal statements on a number of topics. However, when it came to discussing the PSN account, Hotz equivocated, stating: “To the best of my knowledge and belief, I do not have a PlayStation Network account.” Hotz also provided interrogatory responses that he has refused to verify, stating that he has not accessed the PSN. Bricker Decl. ¶4.Hotz identified four PS3 Systems in his possession. Bricker Decl., ¶4, Exh. C. He explained that he had purchased one of these consoles new in February 2010 and provided the serial number for that console. Id. SCEA used that serial number to determine that on February 25, 2010, Hotz purchased the PS3 System at a Gamestop store just miles from his home. Law Decl., ¶6; Bricker Decl., ¶6, Exh. E. SCEA’s records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name “blickmanic.” Law Decl., ¶6, Exh. A. The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives.
I find the facts rather scary that they can dig up such information so easily!

I mean since when does a law suit give the person suing the right to see all the records they want? And by looking at this, we see that they went after every bit and piece of information they could come up with!

I don't like the looks of how they gathered data/facts, it appears to me that the courts gave them untethered rights in seeking information out about the "Alledged" offender. Though I suppose this is a criminal case correct?

In criminal cases this doesn't mean diddly, but in a civil case, it would be a serious breach of privacy laws, no?

No matter what the case, based upon the information in the quote above taken from the article one can see that the government & corporations have deep eyes into your business and dealings, able to piece together enough evidence to do whatever they want when they want...

And who's to say they aren't gathering & using this information illegally or worse, selling it?

I think it's time for regulating the regulators & corporations!
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Are you serious?

The FBI or US Marshals going after him in another country is vastly more illegal than anything anyone has accused Geohot of.

Unless he was charged with a violent crime, few nations would authorize his extradition.

Unless he was wanted on terrorism charges or other serious national security charges, the US wouldn't risk an international incident by trying to apprehend him in another country.

He's charged, or going to be charged, with copyright infringement, contempt of court, perjury, and maybe obstruction of justice. None of these are anywhere near serious enough to warrant the exercise or imposition of extraterritorial jurisdiction.
Dude fleeing a court case just opened him up to being extradited, when the court summons you, YOU MUST APPEAR! Even if he would have flew before the case, he still is obligated to appear being an American Citizen..

I.C.E. goes after American Citizens in ANY COUNTRY if there is evidence found that they are doing something bad with children in those countries, and I'm glad too! So if they have jurisdiction in other countries to take you away back to America, what makes you think Geo Hotz is exempt? Justice will be served, always, even if it's not done by the courts, Sony is a corporation, unlike Geo Hotz, they have money, so if they wanted to take matters in their own hands (like they are now), they could.

I wouldn't want to be in Columbia, not as an American, nor Venezuela, no thanks...
Edited by _GTech - 3/23/11 at 9:15am
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His move was not stupid there is clearly corruption on the side of Sony and the US law enforcers. He would not have had a fair chance.
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Are you serious?

The FBI or US Marshals going after him in another country is vastly more illegal than anything anyone has accused Geohot of.

Unless he was charged with a violent crime, few nations would authorize his extradition.

Unless he was wanted on terrorism charges or other serious national security charges, the US wouldn't risk an international incident by trying to apprehend him in another country.

He's charged, or going to be charged, with copyright infringement, contempt of court, perjury, and maybe obstruction of justice. None of these are anywhere near serious enough to warrant the exercise or imposition of extraterritorial jurisdiction.

You REALLY don't know anything about Law, at all, do you? They have rapists, petty drug dealers, murderers, money launderers, everyone from here to there extradited back to the states to face court. All of those things you listed are most definitely worth seeking him out. And the feds may not get him, but South American police may, and they could extradite him back to the US.
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that was a bad idea.... *facepalm*
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Stupid move. This pretty much admits that he knows what he did was illegal. He should've stood up and fought the battle which wouldve not only pretty much ensured he won in court but wouldnt have messed his life up anymore then he already had, and probably made it better after he won.

Even though alot of you guy are sympathetic to him, dont donate. Find someone who will atleast stick up for what they've done even if they lose.
I would have asked for an out of court settlement if I could have...

I would have owned up to my mistake or wrong doings, being a coward he will have to take a much harder beating now...

The courts have more mercy on those who admit they were wrong... Now he will have no mercy.

He would done better to take it like a man and then flee, because professionally he would be completely ruined if he gets a felony in America. South America may present more work for him than America now...

Felons are treated like a disease by Corporate America, you won't get a job if you are a felon.
Edited by _GTech - 3/23/11 at 9:27am
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God forbid Sony caring about their products and DMCA laws.
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You REALLY don't know anything about Law, at all, do you? They have rapists, petty drug dealers, murderers, money launderers, everyone from here to there extradited back to the states to face court. All of those things you listed are most definitely worth seeking him out. And the feds may not get him, but South American police may, and they could extradite him back to the US.
Let's be honest.

South American police are probably lazy.

I've been to Mexico many times, and there are flea markets that sell loads of pirated software and other products and the police walk by without a problem. AND IF they do make a problem, the vendor just bribes them. And bribing a cop in Mexico is very normal.

I know that's Mexico, but I wouldn't doubt that all of Latin America is the same or if not similar.
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