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post #1 of 10
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My sig is my first build and I was a complete noob 6 months ago about anything overclocking.
After hours and hours of forum reading (thanks guys) I have determined my chips threshold and am looking to move on to RAM.

PIIx555 - 20x200 - 4Ghz
vCore - 1.45v
NB - 2800Mhz
CPU/NB - 1.3v
HT - 2000Mhz
All else Auto

Now my last steps went as followed. I upped my multi to 21 and it booted to windows but as soon as I started Prime95 Blend it crashed. So I upped the vCore to 1.475v and it crashed the same way. The same held true for 20.5 on the multi.

Thus I believe my chip will not pass x20 multi without a voltage bump that my CPU cooler can not handle.....

I set my NB frequency to 2600Mhz stable at 1.3v then tried 2800Mhz and that was also stable at 1.3v. I may be able to go higher but I have read that anything about 2600Mhz is really diminishing returns.

Same holds true for HT speed I read that it makes little to no difference past 2000Mhz.

Any suggestions feel free to critique!

Now for RAM, I don't have the best RAM to OC (check my sig). Today I hopped into the timings and just switched it from 9 9 9 24 T2 to 8 8 8 24 T2 and the system wouldn't even boot to bios!!!! Had to reset my bios through my MB button. I didn't think that was much of a change but it stop my machine from even a bios boot??
Just looking for suggestions on a mild overclock for this type of RAM and my setup as I'm not sure where to start.

Edit: My RAM is running at stock 1333 CL9 1.55v, when I changed the timings to 8 8 8 I did not change the voltage FYI.
Edited by noahhova - 3/23/11 at 11:22am
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post #2 of 10
You may wanna try 9-8-9-21-2T on stock voltage and see how that works.
If that works try going 9-8-8-21-2T or 8-8-8-20-2T but lower it to 1066.
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post #3 of 10
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would 8-8-8-20-2T 1066 be faster then CL9 1333?

I'm not afraid to raise the voltages however, my Kingston Value RAM has no heat spreader on it so i"m not sure if that will cause too much heat??
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post #4 of 10
I have always seen that tighter timmings are better than higher mhz but i'm sure someone will disagree.
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post #5 of 10
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I have read that some RAM frequencies work better with certain CPU types. Does anyone know the optimal settings for my dual core x555 and MB combination??
I can't seem to do very much at all with stock voltage in terms of lowering timings. WIth Value RAM does anyone have experience adding voltage??
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post #6 of 10
Probably not, 1066 at CL7 is what's about equal to 1333 CL9.
Also, get that voltage down to 1333 CL9. If you can't run 1333 CL9 generic with 1.5V and no more as per JEDEC specifications, you need to perform an RMA.

As for the RAM not overclocking at all.... well, it's generic RAM. What did you expect?
post #7 of 10
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Well my RAM voltage is on Auto and it goes to 1.55v. Could my RAM need more voltage because of my NB and CPU OC??
Also only my 2GB of Value RAM is generic. I have 4GB of Corsair that at least has a heat spread on it.
Could it be more beneficial to take out the generic RAM, OC the Corsair RAM and just run with 4GB of faster RAM. I have never seen my system go about 4GB usage anyways??
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post #8 of 10
No, that shouldn't be affecting your RAM voltage needs. Heatspreaders do not mean generic or not. It all comes down to the memory settings. 1333 CL9 is generic..... no ifs, buts, whatevers.

Unless the Corsair is rated for more than that (i.e. 1600Mhz), in which case the Kingston value RAM would be what's holding you back and they should be taken out. Depending on what you have you might not even use 6GB. i.e. gaming, no need for more.
post #9 of 10
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This is what i have...
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=40072&...Specifications
http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=027214

Just want to know if i'm stuck at stock or if anyone has experience at least getting a small OC out of this. Just want to tighten timings slightly, not looking to go past 1333Mhz.
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post #10 of 10
Ah, they're both on the generic spectrum then. The Corsair kit may overclock a little better, but both of the kits shouldn't overclock or tighten very well if at all anyway. I would rather focus on getting 1.5V to run at that settings if you've already tried everything and it won't lower or go up 1 bit in bus clock or whatever.
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