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So? The point is to stress new hardware technologies, which is what they stated in the beginning.
Oh snap, and here I always thought game makers were in the business of making fun GAMES.

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Metro is a decent, abet badly coded dx11 game.
But as stated, it offers very LITTLE in the way of actual Dx 11.

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And Crysis 2 doesn't even have dx10? Comeon!!?!?!
Anyone that thinks the version of Dx has anything to do with how good or bad, PC or consolized the game is a failure. Not only do they plan to patch in Dx 11, but as stated before, Crysis 1 had .1% difference between Dx 9 and Dx 10 and Metro 2033 had 1% difference between Dx 9 and Dx 11.

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Stop making excuses.

And multiplayer in Crysis 2 is called Call of Duty: MW.
The funniest part about it is that the issues against Modern Warfare 2 were that:
  1. They charged for old maps
  2. The graphics were outdated
  3. No dedicated servers
  4. It was the SAME as the prequels but retextured

So in your words its MW2 with NONE of the things PC snobs whined about AND with the whole Nano suit thing going on and you guys STILL cry!

Just face it, ******IF****** Crysis 2 is a port to you or consolized, blame your fellow PC players who pirated Crysis 1

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That's why it says press start to begin when installed? Where's the start button on my keyboard? lol

0-day patch required to fix the console port bug.
Just shows that the haters don't even play, just repeat what they heard from someone else.

No, the DEMO said press start b/c the DEMO was for both the 360 & PC. You can tell b/c the aiming and recoil on PC is vastly increased from the Demo. Its much harder to control the gun now.

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I bought it. I hate it.

Why? BECAUSE CRYSIS 1 LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS! BECAUSE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CONSOLE PORT! BECAUSE IT FEELS EXACTLY LIKE COD! THEY EVEN COPIED THE PERK SYSTEM!

Crysis to me is like a GPU benchmarking program bundled in a game.

Oh well, back Crysis 1 and Metro 2033.
If you hate the perk system so much, why don't you just play the PRO version? No perks, no radar, no HUD.
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I'd like this game more if ranked servers actually worked correctly.
CF/SLI is for the most part broken.

Random texture glitches.
Ranks not sticking.
    
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I'd like this game more if ranked servers actually worked correctly.
CF/SLI is for the most part broken.

Random texture glitches.
Ranks not sticking.
Yeah the ranked servers are kinda wonky right now but other than that I've had a blast playing. I got kinda sad when I cleared a server out : ( cause I was doing 4:1 KD ratio.
    
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Funk. You have done nothing but defend this game for weeks. Lol. Nothing better to do? Bought it, it's a fun game, not what we were expecting. It's lacking exactly what everyone knew it was going to lack. The fun large scale conquest style multiplayer and an amazing use of DX11. Still an entertaining game.

Done.
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Funk. You have done nothing but defend this game for weeks. Lol. Nothing better to do? Bought it, it's a fun game, not what we were expecting. It's lacking exactly what everyone knew it was going to lack. The fun large scale conquest style multiplayer and an amazing use of DX11. Still an entertaining game.

Done.
That's pretty hypocritical, considering you have nothing to say about the haters who've been hating for weeks before even knowing what the game might turn out to be. Half of the damn haters NOW are just parroting what they've heard from others and haven't even played the game!

I defend most EVERY game that's getting burned before it's even been released. I defended Mass Effect 2, I defended L4D2, I defended Dragon Age 2 and I defended Crysis 2. When the time comes and the PC snobs start crying about BF3, I'll defend that too. It's just immature and stupid to bash a game that hasn't even come out yet.

The gameplay is fun and that's all I was hoping for in a GAME. The MP is BETTER than MW2 or BO AND with nano suits, but without giving money to Activision.

Everyone else who was not simply expecting super amazing graphics but felt ENTITLED to it have been huge douches. They've raged and ranted for weeks without even knowing what the end result was. This game already has great graphics, and for the 5.6% who can run Dx 11, they'll be patching it soon.
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Anyone that thinks the version of Dx has anything to do with how good or bad, PC or consolized the game is a failure. Not only do they plan to patch in Dx 11, but as stated before, Crysis 1 had .1% difference between Dx 9 and Dx 10 and Metro 2033 had 1% difference between Dx 9 and Dx 11.
The first Crysis series came with DX10. Whether it makes a difference or not, the feature should have been included in Crysis 2. It's a step back. Many people could live with DX10 until the DX11 patch but not DX9. We still don't have any official news on DX11, no timetable, so I wouldn't say we are getting it soon.

Steam survey:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
73.12% (56.36% + 16.76%) people have DX10 cards, the majority of PC gamers! Why give us DX9?
Why omit it from the next version of the game? No one knows. No excuses for that.

I've played half the game, and it's more of a port as I go.

A video of sandbox freedom in Crysis 2.

The game is full of console like tutorials, hints and recommended paths of action.

5.6% of gamers have DX11, some are shared in the DX10/11 grouping of 16.76%. If I take half of the 16.76% and add it to the 5.6% I will be over 10% of users having DX11. A company like Apple is doing just fine in the PC market, they only have a little over 10% of the market, people still want and buy their products. They are priced out of the majority of people's budget but that doesn't make them irrelevant because of that. DX11 users are not irrelevant. There over 10% of us out here and growing, Crytek just needs to get their act together.
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The first Crysis series came with DX10. Whether it makes a difference or not, the feature should have been included in Crysis 2. It's a step back. Many people could live with DX10 until the DX11 patch but not DX9. We still don't have any official news on DX11, no timetable, so I wouldn't say we are getting it soon.
If it doesn't make a difference then why bother? LoL. At that point you're not even making any sense! You're more stuck on the Dx version than if it actually MATTERS!

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Steam survey:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
56.36% people have DX10 cards, the majority of PC gamers! Why give us DX9?
Why omit it from the next version of the game? No one knows. No excuses for that.

I've played half the game, and it's more of a port as I go.
When was the last time a business succeeded when it purposely cut its customer base in HALF?!

They omitted Dx 10 because it didn't matter and because there's BS Dx 10 and then REAL Dx 10.1 but Dx 10.1 can only be used by a handful of cards, almost none of them Nvidia. They're giving us Dx 11 guys our bone so why does Dx 10 even matter except to say they did it? When was the last time you spent a cool million doing nothing? So why would you expect them to incur unnecessary expenses that show no gains?!


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5.6% of gamers have DX11, some are shared in the DX10/11 grouping of 16.76%. If I take half of the 16.76% and add it to the 5.6% I will be over 10% of users having DX11.
That made absolutely ZERO sense. None of the Dx 11 users are 'shared'. Maybe you're thinking Dx 11 GPU owners with XP OS......


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A company like Apple is doing just fine in the PC market, they only have a little over 10% of the market, people still want and buy their products. They are priced out of the majority of people's budget but that doesn't make them irrelevant because of that. DX11 users are not irrelevant. There over 10% of us out here and growing, Crytek just needs to get their act together.
The fact Apple has 10% of the market SHARE has nothing to do with them selling to only 10% of the public. Do you understand the lack of logic in that analogy?
    
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Here are my thoughts. The game is fun to play but not as impressive in graphics as the first one. I really like the multiplayer. Also if the first crysis 1 has DX10 doesn't that mean the cry engine was updated to have it, in other words it was available when they were making crysis 2 and they still coded it for DX9 or am I wrong. What I'm going at is that Xbox 360 is DX9 so to cut down on cost and time they decided to code for DX9 to support PC and Xbox together and not have to make a separate DX10 version for PC.
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If it doesn't make a difference then why bother? LoL. At that point you're not even making any sense! You're more stuck on the Dx version than if it actually MATTERS!

When was the last time a business succeeded when it purposely cut its customer base in HALF?!
I guess any game made with DX10/11 doesn't make a difference according to you. Maybe the whole PC industry should take a step back and only use DX9 since it doesn't make a difference. Yeah ok. I guess DICE will fail because they are cutting 50-95% of their user base by developing BF3 with DX11 from the start using your logic.

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They're giving us Dx 11 guys our bone so why does Dx 10 even matter except to say they did it? When was the last time you spent a cool million doing nothing? So why would you expect them to incur unnecessary expenses that show no gains?!
No one knows when DX11 will come and I'm not making any plans for it.
We have DX9 now, period.

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That made absolutely ZERO sense. None of the Dx 11 users are 'shared'. Maybe you're thinking Dx 11 GPU owners with XP OS......
They are part of that group owns DX10 and DX11 cards, how that doesn't make sense. The type pf OS they use is their preference. Ownership of DX11 cards shows the level of market penetration. The users can upgrade their OS at anytime.

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The fact Apple has 10% of the market SHARE has nothing to do with them selling to only 10% of the public. Do you understand the lack of logic in that analogy?
It makes sense. AMD and Nvidia doesn't only sell to 10% of the public either. Everyones has the opportunity to buy a DX11 card, you make it seem like some exclusive video card only for V.I.P. members or elitist as you call them.
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I guess any game made with DX10/11 doesn't make a difference according to you. Maybe the whole PC industry should take a step back and only use DX9 since it doesn't make a difference. Yeah ok. I guess DICE will fail because they are cutting 50-95% of their user base by developing BF3 with DX11 from the start using your logic.
A game having advanced graphical features is a PLUS, but overall does not sway my decision much. Gameplay is first and foremost for me. To even word your question in that manner suggests you did not comprehend my point. What i was saying is that if 99% of what both Crysis 1 AND Metro 2033 did was Dx 9, then why fault Crysis 2 for just dropping the false pretenses? Are the PC Tech Nerds that stuck on Dx versions that they don't realize that Dx 10 and Dx 11 have only been 'sprinkled' ever so lightly on ANY games? If no game can do Dx 11 like the Heaven benchmark without dropping to single digits in a game, then why fault the dev for understanding that people would rather play a smooth game than a pretty slideshow? Crysis 1 and Crysis 2 are so similar that you would have to study a screenshot to determine the differences, and really if the differences are that small then who cares?

I don't know what your point is in mentioning the PC industry taking a step back except to maybe Straw Man my point.

DICE might fail. Crysis 1 was called a disappointment, as far as their first quarter sales go. They hit a million but they were reaching much higher.

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No one knows when DX11 will come and I'm not making any plans for it.
We have DX9 now, period.
True, but your answer skates around the original point I made.

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They are part of that group owns DX10 and DX11 cards, how that doesn't make sense. The type pf OS they use is their preference. Ownership of DX11 cards shows the level of market penetration. The users can upgrade their OS at anytime.
LoL, your position still makes no sense. An OS isn't a 'preference' anymore than a GPU is. A user can upgrade their GPU just like they can upgrade their OS. The problem with that is not only are you then trying to sell someone a game but a $100-$200 add-on. That's bad business. Great for Microsoft, bad for devs. ESPECIALLY given today's economy.

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It makes sense. AMD and Nvidia doesn't only sell to 10% of the public either. Everyones has the opportunity to buy a DX11 card, you make it seem like some exclusive video card only for V.I.P. members or elitist as you call them.
I'm going to take a guess and say you still live with your parents. Have you tried to get a job lately? I've been out of work for 10 months. People are losing their homes STILL. Unemployment has barely moved. Do you REALLY think that the best business move for a VIDEO GAME company right now is to try to sell them $60 for a game PLUS $300 for a GPU/OS?!
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