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post #1 of 10
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heya guys,

i am a long time pc guy but been out of the 'build game' for a while. i am buying a Phenom II 1090T Black Edition Six Core Processor to start a system out [because i found a great deal on it]. i am going to be getting 8gb of ram and a SSHD for win7 and some games [yes, im a gamer] i am looking for some MoBo ideas to go with this cpu. i may want to add an sli card in the future [nvidia for life] and i am interested in overclocking for the first time. any advice on a nice mid range MoBo would be great, in the 150$ ish range. thank you very much.

this is what i was thinking so far ... ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3, but i think i may want better [the 'no 2x 16x pcie slots' isnt good for my future sli ideas...]

edit - also, i would like to get a PSU that will be good for expansion of an sli card, as well as stable system operation... idea is CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
post #2 of 10
The difference between 16x/16x and 8x/8x is very very little.

The motherboard you posted appears to be the best you can get in terms of an AMD sli ready motherboard.

They have this board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...236R-_-Product

Which offers Tri-sli if needed at 16x/8x/8x and 16x/16x/0x for two way sli and the open box version is a little cheaper than the Asus M4A87TD EVO and has a few more features.

Hope this helped.

And from what i've heard from other OCN members is that these mobos don't do crazy overclocking on the cpu. But i'm sure it can bring your 1090t to 4Ghz if you wanted.

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post #3 of 10
M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and just use the SLI hack. This board smack dab hits $150, but is worth it for the reason that it will run AM3+ AMD FX-Series "Bulldozer" CPUs once they are out. Be sure to get some nice low timings/higher speed RAM to take proper advantage of a solid state drive.
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i really appriciate you guys getting back to me so fast. i feel really lucky to have found this resource [OC.net]. no trolls, just real info, the way i like it there was something mentioned about 'ram, in regards to the SSHD' and i dont know much about this. would you mind elaborating a little bit please, and thank you again

also, what do you think of the CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W for a max of 2 gpus, 8gigs+ ram, possible raid HDD set up and the SSHD... i was thinking of going bigger, just to be safe.

also, i saw a bit mentioned about OC utilites for amd, is there a link to these, or would you mind showing me to a 'noob guide' ? again, TYVM everyone
post #5 of 10
As always bigger is better, but not exactly value for money if you're not going to use the extra power! But if you want to sli, go for it!

With regards to the motherboard, go for the most future proof. There's nothing worse than finding out you can't upgrade to something better for your board a couple of years down the line. I'd try what XD_1771 said! But unfortunately I am in the UK, and this board is not very available here!

I confirm pretty much what these guys have said, it's just up to your preference! Personally I go for future proofing, otherwise, you'll end up getting addicted to having the latest and greatest! Which I have done many many times!

I hope this helps, and definitely go for a higher PSU if you 100% intend on SLi'ing.


PS: Is this what you're looking for?

Sorry this is the wrong link, but it does have some handy utilities, have a google for:

AMD Overdrive
MSI Afterburner (For your graphics card)
MSI Kombustor (To check if your overclocks are safe)
OCCT (Same as above)

Good luck
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post #6 of 10
I'll second xd's suggestion. I have that board (got it for $100!! ) and it's been awesome. Also, the TX750 is a solid PSU and should be enough juice for what you listed, although if you're not completely confident, you can always spring for a more powerful unit. The Antec Truepower News are selling for relatively low prices currently, and Corsair has a few rebates on their HX series PSUs.

As far as OCing goes, the mobo we've suggested makes it exceptionally easy to overclock, and Roxborough covered the rest of the tools you'll need to fine tune your rig.
post #7 of 10
i personally have the board your describing. I purchased it after rma'ing the MSI crapper i got. I must say the board is nice. USB 3.0 is great, and fast. I only use one graphics card for animation stuff, so not big into sli, but if your looking for overclocking- this board may not be for you. Now it may be because I have so much ram, but my board wont clock to 3.86 without less than 1.48-1.49v. This is idle. on load im looking at 1.51v. And also there are no vrm heatsinks. So clocks that high with that voltage may not be what you get. There arent many people with this combo that I have found overclocking, and those I have seen say its a bit difficult to get a stable clock. You can prob get it to 3.6 without much effort and much more stable.

My temps are fairly low though, with good cooling. 31c idle~ 53-55c load. so its nearing the limit here.

I feel that if I had taken more time to research I would have just gone with an am3+ board, or crosshair IV. You can clock those boards all day with little probs.

Processor is money for overclocking though, I love it. For gaming you should also look at the Intel quads, theyre not bad, and prob could be a little faster. If your mainly gaming then I think youd benefit more from sandy bridge stuff. Just my opinion. do the comparisons. the research my friend.
    
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post #8 of 10
Welcome to OCN!! What you could do to save money and buy something better is downgrading the 8 gigs to 4gb and then possibly upgrading later. Since you will mostly game there is no need for over 4gb. Get the 8gb if your going to do video editing and stuff like that otherwise it's a waste.
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Corsair AX850. I am doing a build as well and through research, this would be my #1 choice if money wasn't an issue (reliable, 850W, fully modular...)
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post #10 of 10
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again everyone, thank you for all the support. it is great joining a community and feeling welcome [even online!] i went ahead and ordered a M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 [per xd 1771s advice] and have been researching the 'sli hack', doesnt seem to bad. i guess next up is a cpu cooler worthy to try overclocking, and deciding on the proper ram, as well as right amount. i do mostly gaming, no video editing.

for psu, i am still undecided, but i think 850-900w+ sounds about right, looking at some of the max load some of the new cards push[let alone 2 of them, and your pc]

the card i am more than likely to get is EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti, looks awsome!

also @ Roxborough, thank you for the links, they gave me a great place to start, i am gathering my overclocking arsenal and doing my research so i am ready for battle when all my stuff arrives

lastly, since i am diving into SSHDs, i have a lot to learn. any links on SSHD tips/win7 cache clearing/setup would be appriciated.

i know there is google... and then there are links from people who know what they are doing. any advice from the pros is welcome
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