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If, you are not in too much of a hurry, I would wait for the new architecture by AMD to be released. It might be another alternative to SB.
    
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To be honest I wouldn't listen to the naysayers. I would sell that card and get a workstation card, save your money on the intel and go amd 6 core. Which a 1090t will cost around 180-190 new now. IDE love tO see u try to find an Intel chip that cheap worth buying. Since ur doing cad the higher amount of cores will almost always trump fewer faster cores. My sig rig was just under 1600. With shipping and taxes. I use it mainly for animation and video editing. The 1090t black edition is what I got and it's a breeze to clock it so long as u have a great motherboard.

That said I would get a great workstation card with the money u save on the processor and from selling your game card, it wont do too well with cad.

Also I came from an oc'd 3.0ghz q6600 and 4gb ocz ram. Now my 1080 renders are like 70-80% faster on top of being way more complex. The muscle you gain from the 6 cores is just amazing, and at probably 1/2 the price of a comparable intel chip. I don't think Intels quads are really suited to the workstation anyhow. They're better for gamers. And I think its mainly gamers on here that will try to steer you towards sandy bridge.

Just remember, most bench marks out there are done with gaming in mind, so dont rely on those too much. Just ask around and see all the people using a 200$ 4ghz stable 6 core processor on air. theyll help ya

Keep in mind I didnt get a hdd as i already had one.
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When would the new amd come out?
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When would the new amd come out?

coming 2nd qrtr apparently. Probably summer time
    
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Boards compatible with AM3+ processors (eight-core 32nm that will destroy Sandy Bridge's LGA1155 variants) are out - both in AM3 socket and AM3+ socket flavours. I would say sticking to an AMD platform would be the better choice if you use multicore apps like video editing. We're only a few months away from the release of AMD FX Series.
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Originally Posted by tazbo28;12845169 
To be honest I wouldn't listen to the naysayers.

I will "naysay" towards anything that does not represent a good value at a particular price point.
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I would sell that card and get a workstation card, save your money on the intel and go amd 6 core.

An i5-2500K is in the same price class as a 1090T/1100T but will out-perform it.
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Which a 1090t will cost around 180-190 new now. IDE love tO see u try to find an Intel chip that cheap worth buying.

The budget being proposed here easily has room for the far superior i7-2600K. The i7-2600K costs about 50% more than a 1090T, but returns that investment with an increase in performance that is equal to or exceeding the price difference. On a performance/$ scale, the i7-2600K is actually a better deal than a 1090T right now.
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Since ur doing cad the higher amount of cores will almost always trump fewer faster cores.

Conjecture. Assumptions. BS.
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My sig rig was just under 1600. With shipping and taxes. I use it mainly for animation and video editing. The 1090t black edition is what I got and it's a breeze to clock it so long as u have a great motherboard.

Defending recent purchase decision that has been trumped by SB.
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The muscle you gain from the 6 cores is just amazing, and at probably 1/2 the price of a comparable intel chip.

Have you even seen the prices of the new sandy chips or are you just assuming they are expensive?
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I don't think Intels quads are really suited to the workstation anyhow. They're better for gamers. And I think its mainly gamers on here that will try to steer you towards sandy bridge.

unbelievable.... People come to this forum looking for good advice, and we have people just making stuff up based on their gut feelings about stuff.. A real shame.
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Just remember, most bench marks out there are done with gaming in mind, so dont rely on those too much.

What about all those benchmarks that are done with real world pro apps and stuff that clearly show the new SBs trumping the thubans?
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Just ask around and see all the people using a 200$ 4ghz stable 6 core processor on air. theyll help ya

People are running the SBs at 5GHZ on air biggrin.gif


Think I'm an intel fanboy or something? Look at my sig rig. I'm a value oriented computer hardware enthusiast. I'm just calling it how it is here.

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Actually most of the people running their SBs at 5Ghz on air are running it at voltages well beyond the safe 24/7 voltage you should be using on that fragile 32nm chip... the majority cut the cord at 4.8Ghz
Just sayin'

And the guy who was talking about multicore CAD could quite possibly be right.... I don't do CAD, but do you do CAD either?

IMO SB is a bit overrated by people and it annoys me seeing people trying to derail AMD builds for SB. People have their different needs. Certain apps - like CAD, perhaps? - would benefit more from 6 Thuban cores than 4 cores/8 threads. Also, there's one other thing you have to consider with the P67 chipset and LGA1155: The i7 2600K is pretty much the top of the line. Choosing AM3 or AM3+, you suddenly have a whole magnitude of options. AMD's FX-series processor will be out, and it is inevitable that one of those at equal speeds would trump the i7 2600K in multithreaded apps due to the more efficient module-based SMT/integer cores available on a brand new 32nm architecture. AM3+ is likely also going to support the future iterations of Bulldozer.
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Actually most of the people running their SBs at 5Ghz on air are running it at voltages well beyond the safe 24/7 voltage you should be using on that fragile 32nm chip... the majority cut the cord at 4.8Ghz
Just sayin'

Fair enough. So lets call it 4.8GHZ vs 4.0GHZ for an i7-2600K vs a 1090T.
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And the guy who was talking about multicore CAD could quite possibly be right.... I don't do CAD, but do you do CAD either?

All evidence points to the i7-2600K being faster at anything it does regardless of how many cores are utilized on either chip.
     
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Intel: finicky with sockets(775,1156,1366,1155)
AMD: backwards compatible, support for upgrades as AMD usually stays to one socket for a while

I'm a CADD student, and my x6 is amazing for me, renders quickly and lets me get on to what ever else I need to do.

I would wait till Bulldozer comes out, then you can make an educated decision between AMD's newest lineup and Intel's.
Personally I think AMD would be the best bet then.
    
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Bulldozer or die imo. biggrin.gif
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