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Really? A 580 beats a 6990 in a lot of benchmarks? Really?
In performance mode that's always been true due to the bios of the 6970 and 6990.

Go check the Tom's Hardware review pre-release in the 6990 review, it's mentioned several times.

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In performance mode that's always been true due to the bios of the 6970 and 6990.

Go check the Tom's Hardware review pre-release in the 6990 review, it's mentioned several times.

Nope

I just checked 8 reviews, not one of them has the 580 > 6990 in Vantage.
Matter of fact the difference is 4-6k.

So please, link this review you speak of.
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In performance mode that's always been true due to the bios of the 6970 and 6990.

Go check the Tom's Hardware review pre-release in the 6990 review, it's mentioned several times.
I try

Seriously show me a bench of gtx 580 vs the 6990 and the 580 showing the 6990 the back door
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http://wccftech.com/2011/03/22/gigab...arks-revealed/

Current benches already beat the 6990...Nuff said.
Leaked benches don't count bro. Wait a couple more days.
Edited by Homeles - 3/22/11 at 1:19pm
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Promising, but ill wait for more benches
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Nope

I just checked 8 reviews, not one of them has the 580 > 6990 in Vantage.
Matter of fact the difference is 4-6k.

So please, link this review you speak of.
Re-read what I said; I'll quote it for you.

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In performance mode that's always been true due to the bios of the 6970 and 6990.
The bios of the 6970 and the 6990's absolutely limits performance because it's bios sets it at max...AMD themselves admitted to this a great many times, it's common knowledge.

The first bench, if you bothered to read//had 0 AA/AF with likely an OC'd 580; absolutely the 6990 got beat, if you've got the cash, do it yourself.

It may be a slightly skewed result because of the lab that "leaked" those results (leaked, ha ha) but, it's absolutely still relevant.

As a beta tester, I'm simply saying these are the same scores I'm getting...Believe it or not, I don't care...Tom's received the same exact results as well when the 6990 was released v1.0.
Edited by Masked - 3/22/11 at 2:32pm
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I will say this again and again until people understand it: these cards are not a waste @ 1080/1200p because even they cannot produce a minimum of 60fps in all the games out now, not even talking about the games coming out in the future.

If you think it's a waste, it's your own opinion.

And yes I'm getting a 590 if I can get my hands on one. And I play @ 1920x1200. And that did not cost 100$...
agreed

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Why would you spend over $300-400 on a 1080p setup? These cards are aimed entirely at the triple-monitor ultra high resolution crowd. You are wasting your money otherwise. That's why HardOCP is great, they review the resolutions all the other sites don't. I don't care how well a GTX 590/AMD 5990 performs at 1680x1050, because if you have $800-1000 to spend on a videocard, you certainly have more than $100 to spend on a decent monitor setup.
False.
Single card solutions are always fantastic for even 1080p users.
Notice how alot of cards, even the 580GTX, can struggle with alot of games at 1080p with max settings? Sure, they for the most part fair pretty darn well but wait another year and it'll be time to upgrade again. These cards don't need to be upgraded as soon without me having to buy a double card setup which will cost just as much if not more. I rather get a 590 than a 580x2 setup, even if the 590 is slightly slower. Saves a significant amount of money and more:

Also, space is an issue on my motherboard. I have a PCI soundcard and a USB 3.0 controller. I can't fit a second GPU card properly unless I choose to get rid of either the controller or the PCI sound card. The USB 3.0 controller is pretty useful, and also I've been planning on getting a RAID Controller so if anything the USB controller will get replaced by that so in the end I'd have to axe that too. Not to mention if I did decide to replace the USB controller with a video card for dual, I'd need to get a long SLi or CF cable, as well as a PSU PCI-E extension. More clutter in the case.

I also have watercooling - if I went multiGPU watercooling: the price would surpass the 6990 or 590 + watercooling easily. Also, it leads to more strain on the pump which means worse temps and possibly me needing to buy a new pump sooner.
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Re-read what I said; I'll quote it for you.



The bios of the 6970 and the 6990's absolutely limits performance because it's bios sets it at max...AMD themselves admitted to this a great many times, it's common knowledge.

The first bench, if you bothered to read//had 0 AA/AF with likely an OC'd 580; absolutely the 6990 got beat, if you've got the cash, do it yourself.

It may be a slightly skewed result because of the lab that "leaked" those results (leaked, ha ha) but, it's absolutely still relevant.

As a beta tester, I'm simply saying these are the same scores I'm getting...Believe it or not, I don't care...Tom's received the same exact results as well when the 6990 was released v1.0.
The Toms review has the 580 ahead in one benchmark, and that was WOW.
So where are these same exact results that Toms has?

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The bios of the 6970 and the 6990's absolutely limits performance because it's bios sets it at max
Elaborate on that statement.
Are you saying that the 6990 can't oc past 880?
There are many people going higher than 880, I've seen 1075 on modified air cooling.


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The first bench, if you bothered to read//had 0 AA/AF with likely an OC'd 580; absolutely the 6990 got beat, if you've got the cash, do it yourself.
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The card is put up against a Basic(830mhz) and Oc’ed(880mhz) variant of the HD6990 and a stock Geforce GTX 580
There is no such thing 0 aa/af in Vantage or 11, the test was done at the performance pre set.

There is absolutely no way a stock 580 beats a 6990 in Vantage, well unless the 6990 is running on a P4 system.
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Those benches are fake...They have to be, Nvidia and partners never release benches with numbers, they are always percentages. These are made up from someone and should be taken with a grain of salt until real benches come out.
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They make the 590 look like garbage in comparison to the 580, anyways.
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