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1333MHz CL7 vs. 1600MHz CL9

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42744&...ture=G%2ESkill

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42745&...ture=G%2ESkill

Which one should I choose...? They're same price at a different store..

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How adequate is the OE CPU cooler for the 955? I was originally planning on getting HAF 912 with Corsair A70...but I found this new case that I REALLY want (Cooler Master Storm Scout), but it's like $30 more so I have to cut $30 elsewhere (which I ended up doing to the A70). Again, I don't plan on doing any OC since I'm a complete Desktop noob. Thanks!

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Hi, I'm new to Overclock.net (joined yesterday), and loving this place!

Recently I've been very into computers and since am graduating in a month, I am planning to build my first PC. I've been using notebooks all my life, so when it comes to picking parts, etc. I am a complete noob.

I am planning to go with AMD since it's better price-to-performance and I'm hoping prices may drop a little when the bulldozers are official. Used a few AMD notebooks as well and personally I prefer them over Intel.

I've gotten a few advice from some people on non-computer forums (where people are not as pro as here I guess). So, just want to get some advice from a more professional POV.

I am planning to make it a budget gaming machine, however a "higher-end" budget machine since I do want reliable parts (not just cheap parts). I don't think I will play high-demanding games like Crysis though, and probably won't OC on a first PC...yet. Anyways, here are the parts:

Phenom II X4 955 BE (~125)
Asus M4A79XTD EVO (~75)
Asus HD 6850 (~175 w/ 20 MIR)
G. SKill Ripjaw X 2x2 1600MHz (~45)
WDC Black 500GB 32MB SATA2 (~40)
Corsair TX650 V2 (~80)
Cooler Master Storm Scout (~75)
Asus DRW-24B1ST 24X (~20)

Total after taxes comes to around $700 CAD (yes, I'm in Canada ...with a killing 13% tax )

Good thing I already have everything else (monitor, mouse, keyboard.. and all students at my school get a free genuine serial key for Win7 PRO with downloadable iso file), just need to get desktop speakers on top of the tower.

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Edited by reyo - 3/24/11 at 5:29pm
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post #2 of 24
You know what? Everything looks pretty good...however, if your not gaming too much switch out the video card for something a bit cheaper, and still very good..

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...947&CatId=2513

And honestly..if you can add a bit more cash..you can have a very nice budget pc with sandy bridge parts...an i5 2500 or even an older generation i3 or i5 will outperform the amd processor you have there
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Welcome to OCN! Hope you enjoy your time here. Everything does look good, but since all the new CPU's are coming out you should go for a sandy bridge build. Or, if you want, wait until AMD bulldozer comes out. I also suggest if you are doing a lot of gaming pay the extra $ to get a 6870, or even a 5870. the 5870 is better than the 6870, amd made the numbering all confusing for the 6000 series. I would definately do some more research and check out SB.
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Welcome. Build looks pretty good to me. Seems like you picked some good components. Plenty of members on her that are more than willing to help you out.

Good luck with the new build.
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You know what? Everything looks pretty good...however, if your not gaming too much switch out the video card for something a bit cheaper, and still very good..

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...947&CatId=2513

And honestly..if you can add a bit more cash..you can have a very nice budget pc with sandy bridge parts...an i5 2500 or even an older generation i3 or i5 will outperform the amd processor you have there
Thanks, I did consider i5 2500K with an Asus P8P67 ... which will come to around $900 total. That is my alternative choice if I'm able to get hold of more cash... if not, then Phenom it is. New graduate and unemployed...tough.

However, I will look more into the GTX 460. The 6850 does have a much higher benchmark and from research it seems to have the best price-to-performance. As well, I like the fact that Asus has a repair center just 15 minutes away from my house
But I will definitely take a deeper look into this card as I've read great things about the TwinFrozr.
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Welcome to OCN! Hope you enjoy your time here. Everything does look good, but since all the new CPU's are coming out you should go for a sandy bridge build. Or, if you want, wait until AMD bulldozer comes out. I also suggest if you are doing a lot of gaming pay the extra $ to get a 6870, or even a 5870. the 5870 is better than the 6870, amd made the numbering all confusing for the 6000 series. I would definately do some more research and check out SB.
The i5 2500K seems really good, however brings up my budget by quite a bit. There is still some time before I finish school so it all depends on how much extra cash I'm able to put into this PC. It would've been an easy choice for me right up front if I didn't damage the kitchen countertop in my apartment which I have to pay $300 for upon move-out...

I did do some research and did notice that the 6850 does not perform as great as the 5000 equivalents, however it does have better tessellation and higher benchmark by quite a bit. I will look more into GPU when actual building time comes since they update so fast. Thanks!
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Spring some extra bucks on a for sale SSD from the for sale section for your latest games/boot drive.
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I was just pricing a budget no overclock gamer yesterday and I was quite suprised to find the pricing on a i5 2400 and H61 motherboard worked for it. Not everybody has a need for K series CPU and a highend board. Just a thought.
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Spring some extra bucks on a for sale SSD from the for sale section for your latest games/boot drive.
I think I will wait out on the SSD until I get a job or something...

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Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
I was just pricing a budget no overclock gamer yesterday and I was quite suprised to find the pricing on a i5 2400 and H61 motherboard worked for it. Not everybody has a need for K series CPU and a highend board. Just a thought.
I think parts in Canada are more expensive compared to you guys...and with a 13% tax, we really don't have as much choices up here unfortunately Personally, I think anything over $700 is no longer considered "budget"....
Edited by reyo - 3/23/11 at 11:49pm
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actually that is really a good rig already. you got some great parts and in the future, if you will be into OC, your components can handle it.

on the ram side though, if you could find a 1333 instead of the 1600 (since native is really 1333) with a tighter timing (CL7) that costs lower, IMO it would be better.

and for the HDD, i cant really see the difference between the Black and Blue WD. well on benchmarks it is, but its up to you it might save you a little more
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