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actually that is really a good rig already. you got some great parts and in the future, if you will be into OC, your components can handle it.

on the ram side though, if you could find a 1333 instead of the 1600 (since native is really 1333) with a tighter timing (CL7) that costs lower, IMO it would be better.

and for the HDD, i cant really see the difference between the Black and Blue WD. well on benchmarks it is, but its up to you it might save you a little more
How do the 1333 and 1600 compare performance-wise? I am using 1333 on my notebook so I figured a desktop should go higher... never used 1600 though.

As well, I can actually get the black and blue at similar prices so I went with the black
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post #12 of 24
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Hi, I'm new to Overclock.net (joined yesterday), and loving this place!

Recently I've been very into computers and since am graduating in a month, I am planning to build my first PC. I've been using notebooks all my life, so when it comes to picking parts, etc. I am a complete noob.

I am planning to go with AMD since it's better price-to-performance and I'm hoping prices may drop a little when the bulldozers are official. Used a few AMD notebooks as well and personally I prefer them over Intel.

I've gotten a few advice from some people on non-computer forums (where people are not as pro as here I guess). So, just want to get some advice from a more professional POV.

I am planning to make it a budget gaming machine, however a "higher-end" budget machine since I do want reliable parts (not just cheap parts). I don't think I will play high-demanding games like Crysis though, and probably won't OC on a first PC...yet. Anyways, here are the parts:

Phenom II X4 955 BE (~125)
Asus M4A79XTD EVO (~75)
Asus HD 6850 (~175 w/ 20 MIR)
G. SKill Ripjaw X 2x2 1600MHz (~45)
WDC Black 500GB 32MB SATA2 (~40)
Corsair TX650 V2 (~80)
Corsair A70 (~35)
Cooler Master HAF 912 (~45)
Sony Optiac 24X DVD R/W (~20)
Cooler Master 120MM Red Led Intake (~5)

Total after taxes comes to around $700 CAD (yes, I'm in Canada ...with a killing 13% tax )

Good thing I already have everything else (monitor, mouse, keyboard.. and all students at my school get a free genuine serial key for Win7 PRO with downloadable iso file), just need to get desktop speakers on top of the tower.

13% tax? in the uk we have 20%, ***.
    
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13% tax? in the uk we have 20%, ***.
Wow, I thought most people up here are from the States. Guess not
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looks like a decent parts list. should be good for your goals.
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So what about the RAM....
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I think this build is doing it right also
Some 1600 CL9 mainstream performance RAM (most of which can be lowered to CL8 anyway) should be fine. If you really want to push it a Ripjaws 7-8-7 kit (likely to do 6-8-6) could give you a small extra boost in certain apps like video transcoding and a few more FPS in gaming
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How do the 1333 and 1600 compare performance-wise? I am using 1333 on my notebook so I figured a desktop should go higher... never used 1600 though.

As well, I can actually get the black and blue at similar prices so I went with the black
well if you can get the black at the same price of the blue, then much better

regarding the ram, the native of the phenom processors are just 1333MHz. anything beyond that requires or results to OC. it also depends if your motherboard can handle the 1600 without having to OC you processor.

in real world applications, you wont notice the difference between the 1333 and 1600 but if you can find a tighter speed, since phenoms love it, it will result to a much "snappier" system.

this is just my opinion
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post #18 of 24
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well if you can get the black at the same price of the blue, then much better

regarding the ram, the native of the phenom processors are just 1333MHz. anything beyond that requires or results to OC. it also depends if your motherboard can handle the 1600 without having to OC you processor.

in real world applications, you wont notice the difference between the 1333 and 1600 but if you can find a tighter speed, since phenoms love it, it will result to a much "snappier" system.

this is just my opinion
So you mean tighter as in the 1333? The mobo I'm looking at says it can support 1600 out of the box, I never knew CPU is involved in this as well!

As well, how adequate is the stock cooler on the 955? No OC...
Edited by reyo - 3/24/11 at 5:32pm
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Alll AMD motherboards can handle 1600 without OC-ing the processor... actually, heck doesn't even come down to the mobo, comes down to the IMC. Phenom II is officially rated at 1333Mhz, however an x8 multiplier exists for 1600Mhz operation - it is sometimes undocumented. Same deal with Nehalem and Sandy Bridge really. They both have increased memory speed multis but are only rated for 1066Mhz or 1333Mhz still.
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Alll AMD motherboards can handle 1600 without OC-ing the processor... actually, heck doesn't even come down to the mobo, comes down to the IMC. Phenom II is officially rated at 1333Mhz, however an x8 multiplier exists for 1600Mhz operation - it is sometimes undocumented. Same deal with Nehalem and Sandy Bridge really. They both have increased memory speed multis but are only rated for 1066Mhz or 1333Mhz still.
So what does all that mean.... LOL
Do I have to change any settings to have it running at 1600MHz?

Also, do you have an idea on how the stock CPU cooler for the 955 is?
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