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You can always expect Tom's to hate AMD products in general. But imo both cards suck, single GPU ftw

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Exactly what I predicted two weeks ago happened: it's slower than the Radeon HD 6990, and the same speed as a GTX 570 SLI. There's no way NVIDIA was gonna get 10% better scaling compared to GTX 580 SLI at 590 clock speeds.
    
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I have a question at what point would the pcie x16 be a bottleneck, I mean what if you OC'ed the GTX590 to a 900 core under water. at what point would the pcie bottleneck you. Does anyone here know ?
 
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I have a question at what point would the pcie x16 be a bottleneck, I mean what if you OC'ed the GTX590 to a 900 core under water. at what point would the pcie bottleneck you. Does anyone here know ?
There's no point in water cooling this card, really. Over-volting will result in the MOSFETS and VRMs giving up.
    
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There's no point in water cooling this card, really. Over-volting will result in the MOSFETS and VRMs giving up.
You missed the point of the question. I said even if it was something possible. if you wanna critics a hypothetical scenario you missed the point of the question... My question is where does x16 2.0 pcie become a bottleneck. No need to comment if you don't know.
 
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Wut... you are aware that if you cool down mosfets and vrm's ... the probability of that happening is lower ... correct?
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Wut... you are aware that if you cool down mosfets and vrm's ... the probability of that happening is lower ... correct?
Nope. It won't make a difference. Same story for the GTX 570. Even with extreme VRM cooling, they blow up. Temps. won't make a difference if the components can't handle the power that they need to output.
    
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close cards!
but AMD still has the most powerful card in the world 2 TIMES IN A ROW!
but at the same time nvidia has the most powerful single GPU since the 8800GTX.
AMD hasnt beaten that...yet.

i like the low noise of the 590 tho.
but most of the 6990s are cheaper, so i'd rather buy that if i actually was in the market for those.
    
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You missed the point of the question. I said even if it was something possible. if you wanna critics a hypothetical scenario you missed the point of the question... My question is where does x16 2.0 pcie become a bottleneck. No need to comment if you don't know.
It won't become a bottleneck. NVIDIA is using its NF200 bridge in order to eliminate any bottlenecks that might come from using this solution.

I simply disregarded your hypothetical question because there's no point to it. You won't be able to OC it to 900MHz Core Clock without it blowing up.
    
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Nope. It won't make a difference. Same story for the GTX 570. Even with extreme VRM cooling, they blow up. Temps. won't make a difference if the components can't handle the power that they need to output.
Components can blow up for very different reasons

a) Resistance to current
b) ... to temperature

usually one leads to another...

If you lower the temperature, usually the capacity of dealing with the output increases ...

Using more phases, lowers the load of each component that leads to lower temperatures...
Edited by Pedros - 3/24/11 at 4:28pm
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