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Where is the bravery lad!... But nobody wants to kill something on purpose, so its ok to be a bit cautious. Although the sparks are more fun.
Agreed. NO GUTS NO GLORY!!!
Funny story, I once had a machine that was unstable, so I started OCing for fun (figured it couldnt get worse) and the damn thing became MORE stable. classic. That was the day I became a true overclocker, pushed the cpu on a shakey build 25% more and BOOM stability dance party celebration!
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normally i would go with toms hardware on reviews, but since they didn't use the 11.4 drivers for the amd video cards, i cant really use there review as a reference!!
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It's been said a few times, and applied several others by people thinking there's something to 'defend' here. It's simply reality.

And If people are weighing a purchase decision, they should be looking at things like this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_590/23.html

And this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...TX_590/22.html

Being scared away by an overvolted card frying is a bit silly x.x; And yes, there is a word for that
So people who plan on buying a $700+ video card will care about performance on a 15" or 19" monitor? That's what you are saying with that first link. At 1080 and above resolution the 6990 is even or beats the 590. Case closed. You don't buy a $700 video card to play on a 15" monitor. You play on Eyefinity with the most powerful card in the world!

Your second link is about fan noise... again, who's gonna spend that kind of money on a card and....

A. Care about fans noise when they are gaming all the time (since that's what we buy high end cards for, right?)

or B. not water cool the card.

or C. hear the thing over their 8+ 120 mm fans blowing air through their radiators.

If AMD wins the benchmarks, that's all that matters. We are talking about King of The Hill in Performance not cool n quiet for a HTPC.
Edited by tout - 3/25/11 at 5:44am
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http://3dvision-blog.com/geforce-gtx...tereo-3d-mode/

some interesting figures vs gtx580 sli in 2d and 3d modes
     
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I think you've missed it, but we're all on about the card frying itself. Whose gonna buy one when it can fry on it's own on boot up? Thus you can stop the fanboy for now.
Are you serious? The cards blew up because they gave them too much volt and not enough cooling? How many of these at stock blew up?
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Are you serious? The cards blew up because they gave them too much volt and not enough cooling? How many of these at stock blew up?


If you check out Nvidia response to the cards blowing up they even state THEMSELVES to only really overclock the card on stock voltage and even normal overclocking can cause failure.

They even said water cooling the card won't help it overclocking wise.

The cards a big overclocking failure.
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If you check out Nvidia response to the cards blowing up they even state THEMSELVES to only really overclock the card on stock voltage and even normal overclocking can cause failure.

They even said water cooling the card won't help it overclocking wise.

The cards a big overclocking failure.
I don't think they would say that lol

But this is what they said. With stock cooling you should stick with stock volts, with water cooling you can go try to add some voltage but overclocking and overvolting can still be dangerous and can void your warranty. I think you need to read their statement again.

AMD put a big sticker on the card saying that overclocking will void the warranty as well. It doesn't mean the 6990 won't overclock because even though it doesn't overclock that good it still does.
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If you check out Nvidia response to the cards blowing up they even state THEMSELVES to only really overclock the card on stock voltage and even normal overclocking can cause failure.

They even said water cooling the card won't help it overclocking wise.

The cards a big overclocking failure.
Out of all the reviews, only one card (the youtube video of failure) shows the card blowing up with too much voltage. None of the other showed it blowing up at stock voltage and overclocking, which almost every review did.

Where does Nvidia state that watercooling wont help? If you read, it clearly says that it will provide an additional overclocking margin, but it is recommended to stay within a certain voltage bump.
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In the web release driver of GeForce GTX 590, we have added some important enhancements to our overcurrent protection for overclocking. We recommend anyone doing overclocking or running stress apps to always use the latest web driver to get the fullest protection for your hardware. Please note that overcurrent protection does not eliminate the risks of overclocking, and hardware damage is possible, particularly when overvoltaging. We recommend anyone using the GTX 590 board with the reference aircooler stick with the default voltage while overclocking, and avoid working around overcurrent protection mechanisms for stress applications. This will help maintain GTX 590's great combination of acoustics, performance, and reliability. NVIDIA has worked with several watercooling companies to develop waterblocks for GTX 590, and these solutions will help provide additional margin for overclocking, but even in this case we recommend enthusiasts stay within 12.5-25mV of the default voltage in order to minimize risk.
Even Nvidia are basically saying that even basic overclocking can push the card to breaking point!

I say no more
Edited by almighty15 - 3/25/11 at 7:55am
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I say no more
And again, everything you quoted is not related to anything you actually posted before.

Any overclock attempt can cause hardware failure. Thats a pretty basic knowledge. My first attempt ever at overclocking caused my Radeon 5770 to get busted at stock voltage. Does it mean AMD is at fault for creating something that could cause failure at overclocking at stock voltage? No, the fault is with me.

Nividia states minimize risk by staying within a certain voltage bump, that has nothing to do with what you say of watercooling wont help overclocking.

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NVIDIA has worked with several watercooling companies to develop waterblocks for GTX 590, and these solutions will help provide additional margin for overclocking
Watercooling will help overclocking it more, unlike what you said.
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