Originally Posted by Am*
Good job, genius. You say I have no idea what I'm talking about, yet you state PS2 and GC version are identical
when they are worlds apart.
You obviously don't have a clue yourself, buddy.
Wow, you can't read can you? Did you flunk grade school? I NEVER said they are identical.
The PS2 version of RE4 did have a number of graphical differences, but the Gamecube version of the game STILL looked similar. It didn't look painstakingly different at all like those screenshots show. You're completely misinformed and don't have a clue about what you're talking about sir.
That's what I said. They look similar. That's not identical. Similar. Learn to read plain simple english.
The difference between the GC and PS2 version is NOTHING in comparison to the GC picture to this new version. The GC version is better looking than the PS2 version in many different ways BUT overall they're very similar with things like water and fire effects aside. Whether you use a GC screencap or a PS2 screen cap for that comparison - it'll still be very close. What can't you comprehend out of that statement? Please - point it out, and provide some kind of proof if you wish to argue it like I did.
You're just mad.
What I said in the previous comment was (if you had actually read my post instead of flaming at my attempted response, you imbecile) is if you get them both down to the lowest native resolution and then compare, 480p vs 480p restored, neither being upscaled (higher one being downscaled) and both using same video output. Those screenshots were obviously taken via analog input on a HDTV, which is garbage for displaying the quality of SD picture. I can tell you now by looking at those crap screenshots you posted that it looks worlds better on my 28" CRT TV (in your pics blacks are shown as greys, image is badly distorted) which is what anyone will get from connecting anything via analog to a HDTV. CRTs use various imge softening techniques that LCDs/TFT and other HDTVs don't and older consoles often relied on this to make the picture look better, so stretching an already bad picture across a HDTVs resolution makes it look far worse than it actually is.
What are you talking about the LAST damn time dude?
Why would you take an HD REMASTERED GAME
and render it in 480p? That defeats the purpose of the remastered edition.
Like I said:
You wouldn't take a DVD, play it in 480p, and then play a Bluray in 480p to compare it.
You're being totally stupid. Your logic is nonexistent. That's not how things work. You upscale the DVD to 1080p to compare to Bluray in 1080p because thats the point of Bluray is content HD in 720p/1080p
. You don't buy Bluray to watch it on a resolution like 480p. Same with this game, you wouldn't buy RE4 HD to play it on a 480p screen. And, if they made adjustments to the game's effects and stuff, then there would still be a difference anyway DERP.
Eurogamer's DF and Beyond3D forums - the leading professionals in this kind of stuff do it ALL the time. That's how it's done, you're comparing the quality of games' graphics, performance, and resolutions. You're trying to tell me they're wrong? And your reasoning for this later on is cables? ROFLMAO
Comparing upscaled DVDs to Blu-ray is an entirely different story,
No it's not! The CONCEPT is the same! How deaf can you be? Seriously?
the image of both is 2D and can vary depending on the GPU that's doing the upscaling/post-processing, and can still use the same digital output. Upscaling a misinterpreted SD picture from a console on a HDTV will only magnify the jaggies and low res textures, and since the majority of HDTVs won't do anything to fix/post process analog SD picture, as I said before, make it look much worse than it actually does, as in effect you're underlining the inferior analog cable far more than you show the difference between the quality at which the source device actually runs it.
I've never heard more BS garbage in my entire life. Nothing you just said not only made any sense nor is factual yet alone has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Cables have NOTHING to do with this right now. The PS2 or Gamecube can't render the game at 720p. Not only was the hardware not designed to do that, yet alone can, neither is the software being the game. The game on the PS2 and Gamecube is designed to run in SD, with SD effects and textures and everything else.
This new HD version of the game
is designed to run in HD with HD effects and textures. You're DEFEATING THE PURPOSE
of the game by running it at 480p like you want to. That has nothing to do with cables.
For the last time, you have no clue what you're talking about.
If you were to be apart of Sony's or Nintendo's development crew, and are able to design a PS2 or Gamecube that can output HDMI natively, it WOULDNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. That has to be the most senile thing I've ever heard. The game and the hardware only run in 480i/p
While analog and digital signals do greatly differ, but that's ONLY if the content itself can be used in such a manner. Analog signals can handle SD resolution footage just fine, even up to 720p with component (of which the PS2 can use to an extent with some games).
But that's all the Gamecube and PS2 can put out is 480p (a game like GT4 go up to 1080i, somewhat), so whether you use HDMI or analog - it doesn't make a difference in this case. Especially if you factor in component, which many people will argue makes no difference to HDMI to an extent.
So your point is completely irrelevant from the start. Infact, that picture could be from a Wii using component cables or a PS3 using the PS2 version of the game (which is less likely).
"misinterpreted SD picture from a console"
Dude, what in the world...... just stop. XD
P.S. And well done on trying to insult someone else's logic and ultimately coming out like the one with the "half-arsed logic". How exactly does me typing up a response on a keyboard, involve any words coming out of my mouth? Then again, you're probably the sort of nutter who shouts everything he types at the screen, since I doubt you have the balls to speak to anyone in that manner in person.
Someone's mad because you simply don't have a clue about what you're talking about right now.
"Let's compare an HD game to the SD version of the same game at SD resolutions because that's the point of HD right right right?" - Thats what you're spouting out right now. Plain sad.
You've yet to come up with a single thing to support your claims. Yet, I've provided screenshots and everything. None of which you've countered.
And now you're on a rant about how I "probably can't be like that to anyone in this manner in person." You've already lost any respectability in your argument already yet alone not even on the subject at hand. Good stuff.Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 3/28/11 at 2:31pm