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post #1 of 20
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Hi Guys,

I'm building a loop for my brother and wanted to get some advice. In this setup, cost is not really a problem but obviously if I can get something cheaper without losing any performance/reliablity (or marginal loss) then that would be good.

These are the specs of the rig:

Core I7 980X
Evga X58, 4-way sli motherboard
3X GTX580 SLI
HAF-X case

List of WC components (update as suggestions come in)

CPU: EK Supreme HF ~$80
Mobo: EK-FB EVGA Classified 4-SLI ~$140
GPU: 3X EK FC580 ~$110*3= $330
Pump: Swiftech MCP35X ~$100
Reservior: Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Rev. 2 ~$35
Radiator: MO-RA3 9x140mm ~ $150
Tubing: Tygon R3603 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD 5' ~$2*5= $10
Fittings: 1/2" OD barbs
Fans: 9x Gentle Typhoon AP-14 1450RPM?
Fan Controller:
Fluid: Distilled
Anti-Microbial: silver coil
Additives: 1 drop Dawn dishsoap

This system will be purely for reliablity and performance so looks don't really matter. The main concerns I have right now are the HAF-X case isn't really suited for water cooling so I've been thinking of externally mounted/placed radiators. I've also thought about using the Mo-RA3 and cooling it but not sure that's the best option. Again all suggestions welcome, thanks.
Edited by renkenkyo - 3/27/11 at 12:43am
post #2 of 20
That's a lot of heat to dump, you can mount a 360mm rad on the top of course, the black ice GTX is the best there, you will want high sped fans for it though.

That might not dump all the heat is my only concern, you do have the 4 120 fan slots on the side too, you might consider ether 2 240 rads (more reusable)
or a 240x240 rad like this: http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Ph...tor_18169.html


For a res, I would recommend one of the XSPC bay reservoirs for pure functionality, they are very good at getting air out of loops, which is an issue I see with quite a few other resses, (specifically the EK flowmeter res, I wouldn't recommend it personally)


Edit:
Also, the EK GPU blocks are considered the best I believe.


Appologies, thought you were using a haf932 for a sec (would certainly be easier).

You'll prob need an external mount, I would recommend a quad at least, Black Ice GTX rads are still the best for high speed fans though, a 480 should cover most that heat.
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EK GPU blocks are considered the best I believe.
I'm between the EK block (I've got 2 of theirs for my 6950's) which I think has good build quality or the Danger Den one.

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You'll prob need an external mount, I would recommend a quad at least, Black Ice GTX rads are still the best for high speed fans though, a 480 should cover most that heat.
That's what I was thinking, but I was doing some reading and it seems that the MO-RA3 is very good though the price is pretty up there. Only thing I'm concerned about is that reviews I've seen point to the MO-RA's being not as good at high CFM/fan speeds.
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Just a few things and opinions:

CPU is a great choice nothing I know of better out there on the market atm.

Mobo: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25769

GPU: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=29788

Pump: If you are going with a chipset block you will need a high pressure pump such as the 355 maybe even 2 of them.

Res: Is based on looks so go with whatever you think looks the best.

Rad: You need a massive amount of cooling with this monster set up at least a thick 480 and another 240 or 2 360 rads XSPC works well with low rpm fans or Black ice with high rpm fans for the best performance.

Tubing: up to you just make sure your barb size and ID of the tubing match.

Fans: Those go well with a RASA RX rad. Yate loons, Panaflo, Ultra Kaze are other choices deppeds on the rad that you plan to use and how much noise is tolerable.

Fluid: Distilled Water nothing else imo.

Additives: Silver kill coil or PT nuke no soap plz.
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Originally Posted by renkenkyo View Post
I'm between the EK block (I've got 2 of theirs for my 6950's) which I think has good build quality or the Danger Den one.
TBH, I've never had any issues with GPU temps on water, it cools it so effectively anyway, personally I would go for whichever you like the look of best, but according to the guides here the EK is the best.

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That's what I was thinking, but I was doing some reading and it seems that the MO-RA3 is very good though the price is pretty up there. Only thing I'm concerned about is that reviews I've seen point to the MO-RA's being not as good at high CFM/fan speeds.
You're going to need to dump a lot of heat, the black ice GTX rads are pretty reasonably priced, that's what I would go for especially since you prob should use high speed fans.


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Does this block also work for the 4-way sli mobo?

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Pump: If you are going with a chipset block you will need a high pressure pump such as the 355 maybe even 2 of them.
The MCP35X is an 355 with pwm if read about them correctly. I was thinking about a the koolance bay res that can have two of them attached.

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Rad: You need a massive amount of cooling with this monster set up at least a thick 480 and another 240 or 2 360 rads XSPC works well with low rpm fans or Black ice with high rpm fans for the best performance
I was thinking about something as large as I could get, like a 4x140 or something like that but I saw the MO-RA3 which has a 9X140 which I thought might provide the best cooling.

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Additives: Silver kill coil or PT nuke no soap
Only reason I'm using the soap is that it removes the air from the system really well and at one drop, it doesn't foam or cause any corrosion. I haven't seen any build up either on my rig either. I could always hold off but I'll see how it goes long term in my setup before putting it into this one.
Edited by renkenkyo - 3/24/11 at 3:55pm
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You're going to need to dump a lot of heat, the black ice GTX rads are pretty reasonably priced, that's what I would go for especially since you prob should use high speed fans
Agreed, that's why I figured I couldn't fit anything in the HAF-X that would dump all that heat. If I were to get the GTX rads I'd need to find a way to either mount them on the case externally or make a stand for them. The MO-RA3 has a stand already but the price is way up there.
post #8 of 20
A 9 fan rad on the side would be awesome lol!


For mounting, just make some from some aluminium is what I would do, spray them black...



If you're looking at dual pump, you might want to consider a dual pump top like this:

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK...tal_19922.html

Runs the pump in series to double the operating pressure.
    
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For the pump yeah I just realized I was thinking of the wrong pump that pump should be more than adequate.

Here is the correct mobo chipset cover: (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26781)

The MO-RA3 is a beast cant get much better than that for non mod air cooling.
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post #10 of 20
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A 9 fan rad on the side would be awesome lol!
18 in push/pull would be cool, I just need to find a way to bundle them all up and connect it to a fan controller!

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For mounting, just make some from some aluminium is what I would do, spray them black...
DIY is tough beyond basic drilling and stuff cause I don't have any tools, though if I did I'd probably make a big shroud to mount it to.

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If you're looking at dual pump, you might want to consider a dual pump top like this:
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK...tal_19922.html
Runs the pump in series to double the operating pressure.
Yeah I was considering that, but I'll have to find a place in the case to mount it.
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