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These fake programs and websites are so pathetic.
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I've seen 2 rogue ones like this in the past couple of months now. One at my job and one on my laptop. The first one was on a website (I remember name but won't post) while researching laptop reviews. Clicked "Next" link and boom, browser locked, and a fake popup saying McAffee found 20 viruses and scanning or some dang thing. I didn't fall for it because we actually have Kaspersky. But it was already done for. Had to have help desk fix that one since I had no authority.
Are you saying, all you did was click a 'Next' link, and your computer was infected by just that? I didn't think that was possible. I thought you had to download and run something :S

Scratch that... I just realised something...

A few days ago (1 week max), I changed windows 7 UAC from the 2nd lowest level to the lowest level. That has gotta be it!

I was annoyed because some programs like coretemp would ask for permission every single time I ran them, even when I'd ticked not to ask any more.

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you should perhaps change every password you've typed into that computer in the past month.
from another computer that's not infected.
and keep it removed from your network for the time being.
It's already removed from network... I'd absolutely hate to have to change all my passwords, but you are right, I should.
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Are you saying, all you did was click a 'Next' link, and your computer was infected by just that? I didn't think that was possible. I thought you had to download and run something :S
I think the ActiveX warning was turned off or something on mine. You know, the yellow bar that comes up in IE if something tried to run?

(yeah yeah, back then IE was the only thing available on my work computer so bite me IE haters)
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I think the ActiveX warning was turned off or something on mine. You know, the yellow bar that comes up in IE if something tried to run?

(yeah yeah, back then IE was the only thing available on my work computer so bite me IE haters)
I can't say I'm familiar with IE, but it sounds similar to my situation, in that I recently turned off windows UAC.
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I can't say I'm familiar with IE, but it sounds similar to my situation, in that I recently turned off windows UAC.
Yeah, if was a windows 7 UAC would have popped up instead. In my case it's WinXP and IE 8. When a website with an ActiveX control is opened, a yellow bar appears at top of window asking if you want to allow it or not. It NEVER came up until AFTER that incident.
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Yeah, if was a windows 7 UAC would have popped up instead. In my case it's WinXP and IE 8. When a website with an ActiveX control is opened, a yellow bar appears at top of window asking if you want to allow it or not. It NEVER came up until AFTER that incident.
I see, thanks for the info
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A few days ago (1 week max), I changed windows 7 UAC from the 2nd lowest level to the lowest level. That has gotta be it!

I was annoyed because some programs like coretemp would ask for permission every single time I ran them, even when I'd ticked not to ask any more
Mate, almost no one on this forum has UAC activated. We all turn it off, because it's annoying. It might have stopped it, but it's not why you got a virus.
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Setting yourselves up for one big-ass fall there.

All I'm saying.
Maybe, but I've been using Windows-based systems since Windows 95 (actually, since Windows 3.1, but I didn't have internet access back then); the only time I've ever gotten malware is during a time when I was constantly downloading all kinds of porn as well as all kinds of illegal software using KaZaA Lite K++ and then Limewire (back when KaZaA kinda died) as well as by going to various Warez websites. It was back when Windows 98 was new. In my defense, I wanted free copies of both Microsoft Office and Windows in addition to other very-expensive (and not-so-expensive) software.

Here's how it went down: I started having major issues that no one (and I mean no one) could fix, so I bought First Aid 2000. As a result, I discovered that almost every single file was infected; every time I single-clicked a file, First Aid 2000 was like, "ZOMG DON'T OPEN THAT!!!!!". Luckily, I was able to use First Aid 2000 to clean all of my files and even keep them (some of my irreplaceable files were infected too). I still have most of those previously-infected files today (because I deleted a few I no longer needed)!

In talking with some computer-savvy people back then (I wasn't very computer-savvy), they taught me that the best way to have the greatest chance of avoiding more malware (although we just used the generic term of "virus" back then) is by not downloading any more porn or illegal software. So, I obeyed and I haven't had one single problem ever since. Yeah, that's right: I haven't had one single computer problem since I stopped downloading porn and illegal software (since at least 1999 or 2000). Except, shortly after I was told to stop, I decided to disobey at first and I became far more careful about what I downloaded. So the actual reason why I stopped is more because I got sick of the work - it just wasn't fun anymore due to having to be more careful.

Now today, a friend of mine seems to keep getting malware once in a while; to my knowledge, he doesn't download porn or illegal software. Instead, his routine involves MySpace and other social-networking sites like it. So, I think that's where he's getting malware from. I mean, I don't participate in any social-networking sites, I don't have any instant messengers, and I don't carelessly surf the internet (he surfs carelessly because he thinks his anti-malware apps are protecting him, which they're not), and I don't have any problems - ever. I can't remember the last time I had a problem because it's been several years. I think it's because I'm extremely careful and mindful about what I click. I also have NoScript, ABP, MVPS.org's Hosts file (with my own modifications), and now Firefox 4.0. I also have a hardware firewall.

So yeah, I think that it's easy to avoid malware. Plus, it helps to know your operating system. I mean I've been through every part of Windows 7 which means if I saw that WindowsRecovery thing pop up on my computer, then I would have lol'd knowing that it's fake. That's how I knew it was fake the moment I saw your pics. Plus, it helps to notice those spelling errors like "Memery".

Finally, I also regularly check Task Manager to see my list of Processes. Not only that, but I also regularly check Programs and Features as well as the amount of free space on my drives. This way, I'll know right away if something is different.

Oh, and I have UAC disabled.

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Thanks for all your input thusfar TwoCables

It's surprising how similar our computer backgrounds are; I also started on 3.1, but I did have (intermittent) internet access. Well, if I'm honest I started with BASIC on a BBC Micro, but that definitely wasn't connected to the internet. With regards to windows, I've used every incarnation except for Vista. I too remember the days of kazaa, and sweeping friends computers when they got viruses; I in fact did get a machine infected myself using Kazaa (it wasn't mine ).
I've had my own personal PC since 2000, and from then until now I have never had another virus.
Every month or so I would download an antivirus program and scan my computer, just to check nothing had slipped under the radar. It was also a means of trying out lots of different programs; I was hoping I would find one I liked enough to keep. Alas, that never happened.
I too have downloaded some perhaps not so secure files in my time, although I have pretty much ceased all such activity these days.
It is funny you should mention social networking sites for two reasons. First of all, I do not use ANY social networking websites (and nobody else uses my computer).
Secondly, a good friend of mine (the 3rd most tech-savvy person I know) just the other day got her first virus ever. She spent a day trying to work out how she'd gotten it, and eventually realised the culprit was none other than Facebook.

You are completely and utterly right with regard to what you said about knowing your OS; I've not played with Win7 anywhere near enough. I've had it installed since late summer, but as my workload has shot up since then, I don't get to spend as much time on my computer these days

So yeah, whilst it is pretty easy to avoid viruses, it can still happen, even to the best of us.

All I'm saying

P.S. What, if any, anti virus programs do you use?
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Yep, its a fake program. You can get rid of it by doing this, but windows just wasn't the same after that.
http://www.xdelbox.com/how-to-get-ri...ws-diagnostic/
i tried a few websites but my background got stuck as black and i couldn't change it i keep getting crashes aswell.
My computers life just about ended. That site had a virus...
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