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Originally Posted by Rhoko View Post
Dont know if any one has seen this yet... LOL

that is hilarious, good eye.


i'm looking into an eyeinfinity triple monitor setup soon. will be holding off a bit more to see what nvidia and amd gots in store.
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Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01 View Post
This card is a joke, I think even dual 560s could do better. First they try to beat the 6990 and ends up being overall 1% faster and now the card can't handle the current/heat. nVidia really shouldn't have bothered.
This, it's also why nVidia really needs to drop the massive die strategy...As well as all of the other stuff that comes from it, they can't make a dual GPU card and control the heat and voltages on it with a die as massive as Fermi.

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Originally Posted by MoBeeJ View Post
Using the drivers in the cd is bad.
Also linus on youtube pushed it normally to 800ish mhz, using highest volts in afterburner.
1.1, same as gtx5xx series voltages. Reading some reviews, techpowerup, he jumped from 800mhz @1.00 volts to 1.2!!!!
Reviewrs are trying to hit 850-900mhz clocks because basicly its the same core as gtx580, but its less cooled and have lower power delivery so...fail on their end.
Am not defending the gtx590, specially y nvidia opted 4+1 pwm. I think th 6990 is still better for gaming. But the 590 will win in benchmarks under extreme conditions. I am just saying that they are rushing through overclocks.
Drivers have nothing to do with it, some enable more aggressive OCP which is not a fix at all, unlike with the 570 and 580 only being limited by one game and even then by 20mhz, this card is already so close to its limits that I'd be willing to bet that it'd be triggered in most games...

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Originally Posted by awdrifter View Post
They probably should've used dual 570 cores instead of dual 580. The power draw of that card must be on the edge of what the power circuits could handle.
They should have extended the PCB to the same size as a HD6990 and put 6 phases on each GPU instead of 4.

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Originally Posted by soilentblue View Post
that should be enough to equal 580 sli or exceed it a little. good enough for me

i'm still putting it on water though.
Temperatures have nothing to do with it, SB for example, will get to a certain clock speed and then just sit there even if you're on water, LN2, air, etc.

VRMs can only put through so much voltage and these are right at the limits, as soon as one VRM starts to degrade (Normal for any card) even the slightest, the card gets put under that much more stress, I'd wager that every GTX 590 is dead within ~5 years, compared to a lot of cards lasting very long times. (Eg. nVidia TNT2s still being sold on eBay, or the one I have from ages ago that works fine.)

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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
1.2V is pushing it though no? Kinda in the territory of anything goes.
Although, I can meet half way and agree it's a shame they self destruct like that though.
Most of the cards were around 1v to 1.05v

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Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post
Nah. All of the 400 series cards can handle that voltage without flinching. The 580 can too. You won't start to do serious damage to the chip until around 1.4V on ambient cooling.
This, the GPU isn't destroyed (Unless the VRM sends a massive spike to it) but the VRMs and maybe some of the other power regulation circuitry are.

What I want to see, is someone use say, 2x GTX 580s phases, but connected to the 590s GPUs instead, that'd be fairly awesome.

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
900/600 = 50% AND YOU GET GET THAT WITH gtx590.
Only for about 5 minutes before card goes the same way as my Corsair VX550 did when I put CFX HD4890 on it.

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Originally Posted by H3XUS View Post
Lol. That sucks..

Make the GPU's you have now last, because the GTX 600 family is coming in Q4 2011. 3-4 times faster, not to mention the temps are going to be much MUCH lower. The 28nm family has better stability and power efficiency. Along-side the P67 chipset's efficiency, we're looking at a mighty stable generation ahead!

No sense in paying $700-$1000 for that junk, when you can get an even faster card for a third of that price in September/October.
3-4 times faster? What?

And 55nm, 65nm, etc were all viewed to be far more efficient and stable, etc, if nVidia makes a massive die on it again (eg. Fermi on 40nm, etc) then it's going to be the exact same all over again.

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Originally Posted by Chuckclc View Post
The fan stopped moving. Seeing this should not deter anyone from buying this card or using those drivers because the fan gave out.
Read the thread, the computer reset, hence all fans stopped moving, card had already self-destructed internally by then and trying to use it at all just was too much for the decimated VRMs, plus god-knows how many other cards have done it and VRMs blowing up isn't due to temperature, the 570 had a less extreme version of this problem.

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Originally Posted by StrictNine View Post
If you put some ram sinks or something on the vrm's would they be able to handle a little extra voltage? or is it just pulling way more then the vrm's can handle and cooling won't help?

I bet this card would be killer if the parts were better quality.
It's the exact same as when an AMD CPU blows up a 4+1 phase motherboard, it's too much for it to handle.

I'd expect 4+1 phases to barely cover 125w, barely, 6 phase is what's required for these GPUs...

This, the HD5970 driver issues and all of the other issues you get with cards is why I refuse to buy dual GPU on a stick, if I wanted two GPUs then generally having two separate ones works better anyway...
    
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Lol. That sucks..

Make the GPU's you have now last, because the GTX 600 family is coming in Q4 2011. 3-4 times faster, not to mention the temps are going to be much MUCH lower. The 28nm family has better stability and power efficiency. Along-side the P67 chipset's efficiency, we're looking at a mighty stable generation ahead!

No sense in paying $700-$1000 for that junk, when you can get an even faster card for a third of that price in September/October.
3-4x faster? Dream on.
A generational performance jump of that magnitude has never happened before.
It didn't happen with Radeon 8000->9000 or Geforce 7->8 and I doubt it will happen with the next gen.

If you are basing your guess on that Nvidia graph with Kepler and Maxwell, that graph is one for performance/watt, not raw performance.
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eheh yeah ... maybe you'll be able to get the same performance than a GTX580 in a more mainstream card with 40%-50% less power requirements ... That's where the Kepler will win vs current Fermi ...
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I was hoping for a more explosive demise to that car. Like how my GTX 295 died. I head a loud "pop", looked into my case, and saw 3-4" of flame coming from the top back of my card. I'm pretty sure my soul died a little when I saw that. Powered off and surveyed the damage. A PWM was missing, along everything with 1cm of that PWM. Including the PCB.
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Even still, that wouldnt help the fact that 4+2 phases is horribly inadequate for a guzzler like the GF110 with 512sp.

I mean, you know how well 4+2 phases do for GTX 570's when overclocked.
hm, what's the phases on a GTX 470 then?
     
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hm, what's the phases on a GTX 470 then?
4+2, but they're different VRM's. Numbers aren't everything, but with the quality of the phases they're using on these cards, they need more. Or they could use better components...
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nvidia will get a nice loss of money cuz of this card
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nah... ppl will buy them all, no doubt about that
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4+2, but they're different VRM's. Numbers aren't everything, but with the quality of the phases they're using on these cards, they need more. Or they could use better components...
The 470 also has 32 less SPs.
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