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I think AMD has the upper hand when it comes to dual-GPU video cards.
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You can't complain to the manufacturers if your card blows up during overclocking! Holy crap. XD Seriously, I would have just shrugged and said, "Too bad peeps. Ever heard that overclocking voids said warranty?"
     
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Well let me tell you this.

If you expected the GTX 590 to overclock as good as 2 GTX 580s you seriously were expecting way too much considering the cards were downclocked to 607Mhz. Also if that was possible you would have the heat and the power ussgae of 2 GTX 580s and probably the price of 2 GTX 580s.

BTW TPU got the card to 775Mhz stable. That's a pretty sweet overclock if you ask me.
Too much to ask, i don't feel like it is, considering their direct competition's dual gpu card overclocks very well. People are hitting 1ghz cores easily, and gaining a lot of performance from that.
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post #74 of 172
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Well let me tell you this.

If you expected the GTX 590 to overclock as good as 2 GTX 580s you seriously were expecting way too much considering the cards were downclocked to 607Mhz. Also if that was possible you would have the heat and the power ussgae of 2 GTX 580s and probably the price of 2 GTX 580s.

BTW TPU got the card to 775Mhz stable. That's a pretty sweet overclock if you ask me.
That's basically 2 GTX580s on one card. But, the point you make is a good one, and people seem to have missed it. The max draw on the PCIe is 375W. That's for a single card. A GTX580 has all 375W to itself to play with, and has a TDP of 244W - the GTX590 has the same 375W for TWO GF110s - that's 187.5W each.

That in itself explains the choice of power phase configuration - I'm no electrical engineer, but I'll take a guess that a GPU with ~187W TDP doesn't need 6+2 power phase configuration.

From what I've seen so far, nVidia perhaps designed this card to safely go as far as the standard clocks on the GTX580, and not much further - so that an overclocker can get effectively GTX580 SLI on a single card - assuming the OCP doesn't kick in and strangle the card.

However, assuming this is true, it then calls into question the value proposition of GTX580 SLI - considering the $300 price differential. Can GTX580 SLI give back $300 worth of overclocked performance?


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Wow! One card overclocked well

Also the cores the GTX 590 uses are higher binned and are the absolute cream of the Fermi crop. They require less voltage and and give off less heat than lower binned GTX 580 cores.

I can name some 5770's that have hit over 1.1Ghz
Comparative vs temporal - get it right. Also, people need to stop bleating about clock speeds between nVidia and AMD - they do not translate across chip architectures.
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So the enthusiast should purchase the 6990 because it can overclock and/or overvolt? That basically sums up this thread.
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That's basically 2 GTX580s on one card. But, the point you make is a good one, and people seem to have missed it. The max draw on the PCIe is 375W. That's for a single card. A GTX580 has all 375W to itself to play with, and has a TDP of 244W - the GTX590 has the same 375W for TWO GF110s - that's 187.5W each.


Completely and utterly wrong.....

The 6990 can pull 450watts if it wants too.....

That's some difference from the 375watt specification

Nvidia could of done the same...
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So the enthusiast should purchase the 6990 because it can overclock and/or overvolt? That basically sums up this thread.
And because it's faster
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I stated that, because with the 6990 you are getting the performance of two 6970's. You are able to run the 6990 with the overclocking potentioal of the original cards. Not talking about cherry picked 6970 cores those things can do 1200 on core. For those that wantt he crossfire experience with good overclocking potential it is there.

The 590 however makes little sense to me. First cutting phases to a gpu that originally warranted more makes little sense. The power draw is up there on this card as well. Overclocking potential is missing. Quality of the electrical work on the card.

Brings to question why buy 2 limited cores on one card when you could buy 2 full potential cores on 2 cards. I would take 2 580s over this any day, and if i needed a 2 gpu 1 card solution. I would grab a 6990 since the experience is similar to that of the single 6990s minus the cherry cores.
2 6970s do not go against 2 GTX 580s though. So lets say once you overclock the GTX 590 you could get the potential of 2 overclocked 570s you are getting really good performance right there.

Why limit the cores? Because of power draw, because of heat, because of price

To me the 6990 does not overclock better than the GTX 590 at all. Even at 1000Mhz it's only a 20.5% overclock. Considering the GTX 590 at stock clocks is comparable to the 6990

In some cases the GTX 590 at 607Mhz was on par with the 6990 at 880Mhz
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I can cherry pick results too:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/394...w/index16.html

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It was great that we achieved 1GHz on both cores on our Sapphire sample, but considering we had to run the fan at 100% which generated in excess of 90 dB of noise, we understand that it's hardly a feasible option for most people.
At 940 MHZ the 6990 is still pumping 80dB of noise, that's gotta be lovely for your hearing. Surely you've seen the videos of the lawnmower, I mean graphics card that is the 6990 right?
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after all this time and people are still comparing nvidia and amd/ati on clock for clock basis

why dont we compare elephants to zebra's instead because they have closer relation
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