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Sorry to say he fails: doesn't matter how good a game is, if people are given opportunity to get it for free and avoid paying $60 they are going to take it. Most of the people want to get something for nothing: it's the basic human phsycology.
http://torrentfreak.com/crysis-2-lea...d-fest-110213/

People are human, no matter what. Nobody's mouse hand has a zombified mind of its own to hit the "download" button.

You won't get every last person; that's just unrealistic. But taking a glorified worldview of everyone when you've personally met no large proportion of pirates is going way too far. I think people make choices, and I think they make them for a reason.
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Sorry to say he fails: doesn't matter how good a game is, if people are given opportunity to get it for free and avoid paying $60 they are going to take it. Most of the people want to get something for nothing: it's the basic human phsycology.
Good game = good sales no matter what. Sure people pirate every game, but most people who can afford the game usually buy it if they like it.

If it was was VERY VERY easy to pirate a game and play it, yes, I'm afraid sales would go down, but that's the thing, it's not. The people who pirate games are in the minority by far.

The greatest anti-piracy is online play. Very few games can be pirated and play online. Outside of 3rd party clients for virtual p2p for games for a select few games, there isnt much you can do. The only exception I've seen of this, is MW2 with alterIWnet. However, the only reason that exists is because of the huge demand for it. Black ops wont have this b/c it takes a LOT of work to do what alterIWnet is. Even with alterIWnet existing, MW2 IIRC broke all kinds of sales records.

Piracy has always been and always will be.
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He is spot on!!!

I support the good games with a purchase.

I do not support consolitis and any game that is not 100% PC first and in that regard my PC game purchases have reduced throughout the years.

I bought Dragon Age: Origins but skipped on Dragon Age 2.

I've bought all the Elder Scrolls. Skyrim looks promising but Bethesda may be going the way of Bioware on this one. I will wait for reviews. If I smell consolitis, I'll be sad, but will skip Skyrim as well.

Make good games for PC and I will support the Devs. Make multiplatform games with consoles in mind first and I will shun the game.

I started out with consoles and will not revert to them. The next step from PC will be a Star Trek type holodeck.

You want to make more money and you think the consoles are the way to go, then stick to that and don't give us junk for the PC.

Otherwise, make the games for PC and if you want more money port to console.

I will never be dragged back to consoles and Devs need to realize that most PC gamers will never regress to consoles.

My kids prefer consoles, and more mature generations and those with the real money have worked up from the consoles and want more mature PC games.

Devs need to understand that in abandoning or giving us the leftovers will not work and it's not the pirates killing the PC gaming community but their neglect, ignorance, treachery and greed.
 
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At first I pirated a lot of games

the few that I enjoyed.. BC2, TF2, SC2, Crysis Wars, all these games I stole, played, loved, then paid full price from a store to buy. Why?

Because its a game that I played and enjoyed, they deserve my money. And I will continue this process forever. The ones I don't like? Usually play them for an hour then delete em. Those games don't deserve my money. Games like COD MW2, COD BO, Crysis 2, and a couple others to name a few.. downloaded, tried, wasn't happy, forgot about em.


These devs got my attention now. Might check out what they put out next
 
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Sorry to say he fails: doesn't matter how good a game is, if people are given opportunity to get it for free and avoid paying $60 they are going to take it. Most of the people want to get something for nothing: it's the basic human phsycology.
Actually, given the opportunity to pay or not pay most people pay. It's a psychological phenomenon.

Example: Put a stand of news papers and put the price at £1, but state that paying is optional. 3/10 people will not pay.
    
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Sorry to say he fails: doesn't matter how good a game is, if people are given opportunity to get it for free and avoid paying $60 they are going to take it. Most of the people want to get something for nothing: it's the basic human phsycology.
What about when crysis 2 was leaked and most did not download it to support the mainly pc developer.
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Pretty much everyone I know prefers to purchase their entertainment for customer support and ease of use.. There are various deterrents naturally in place. A good deal of people don't want malware, they don't want to break laws, and they don't want to spend time troubleshooting without help.

It's one of the reasons why no one I knows has hacked their PS3 - Doing so requires reading and a modest amount of research.. While giving up $60.00 for most isn't fun, it certainly beats not having access to online and the other various risks associated with jailbreaking.
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I think the release groups would be a lot happier if the games industry employed hackers - more of a challenge.
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Sorry to say he fails: doesn't matter how good a game is, if people are given opportunity to get it for free and avoid paying $60 they are going to take it. Most of the people want to get something for nothing: it's the basic human phsycology.
Paying $60 is part of the problem. most of it goes to greedy publishers (stares at EA and Ubi)

$30 is more than resonable.
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The big problem with DRM is that is does not work. If DRM actually worked I could see why companies use it, but it doesn't, the games ALWAYS get hacked. A few take a little while, but for the most part it happens really quickly.

All DRM does it throw up hassles for the end user.Of course I have always said the DRM is more about control and in cases of limited activations trying to prevent second sale. These guys care WAAAY more about used sales than they do about piracy. Pirates have not demonstrated a willingness to pay, whereas people buying used games have. The developers and publishers just don't see any of that money.
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