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IMO, no Kepler...till 2012...
Sounds about right, we all remember the Fermi delay from late 2009 into early 2010.
    
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That would blow lol!
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Just because it happened once does not necassary mean it will again!

Of course a roadmap does determine the release with pin point accuracy but I am very confident to see the 28nm architecture in 2011.
Nvidia has saved millions on the 590 production funding to fully engage Kepler.
Also there have been rumors about test samples and prototypes.

Ivy Bridge on the other hand will not bring much innovation to the CPU market in my oppinion.
Small visible improvments maybe but nothing substancial compared to 1366 or 1155.
By the time 26K might look more attractive to some people
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And then, do you jump on the new tech, or wait for the refresh that will be what the original was really meant to be? See Fermi.
    
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I'd wait for the refresh. If I get impatient, Crossfire is always a cheap option, especially running such an old card. But honestly, if the refresh isn't blisteringly amazing, like the narrow difference between the 480 and 580, upgrading doesn't make much sense, like going from an i7 950 to a 2600k.
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Yeah it is a common misconception that 3-4 times more efficient in performance per watt ratio is being equallized with 3-4 times more performance in the Kepler vs Fermi matter.

Certain advantages of that fact will be the development of less heat thus less Watts are required to operate at fair performance level therefor cooling will be far better than with Fermi.

But I am a little sceptical about Kepler being 4 times faster than Fermi....I mean the fact that it is 4 times faster in its power/watt ratio does not exclude the possibilty of actually being 4 times faster but it is still a little hard to believe.

We just do not know the extent of power and efficiency 28 nm architecture will deliver.
The Nvidia CEO seems to be pretty confident though.
The GPU generation performance step ups have always been marginal in my oppinion.
If I look at a GTX 580 and my old 295 there isn´t really that much difference and it is a 2 gen ascension.

I hope that the theory "the smaller the nm the higher the gain" will fully apply this time
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post #28 of 29
Fermi was supposed to launch in 2009, got delayed around 5-6 months but the 5xx series came right on time in December 2010.

There's a high probability that we'll see Kepler by the end of 2011 and for sure it's gonna be faster than Fermi but will we see any games that take advantage of that extra power ? I doubt it...
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but will we see any games that take advantage of that extra power ? I doubt it...
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What is that supposed to mean?
28 nm´s main improvment points are not horsepower...I mean you would have to define that word in relation with gpus first but the main factors are just more efficiency,compatibility and better handling.
Nvidia wants to enhance heat development,power consumption levels and of course in combination with that more performance and very important more efficient performance due to 28nm architechture and structering which is supposed to allow all these points together.
A game is just coding with the main purpose of using a card , CPU and RAM to its advantage in order to be depicted at a certain quality level considering the hardware it is operated with.
Unfortunetly primitive drivers,pedantically coded games and shallow hardware use of the games prevent the full utilization of the graphics card.
And even though Precision shows 99% gpu usage it is really only 40%
Personally I think that fact is intentional and thought through in order to convince or even trick people into always buying the latest hardware or to easier fall for the newest advertisement strategies.
I was very much disappointed regarding that matter in Crysis2.
For months they created more and more hype with their extreme cool trailers making us anticipate an even better gaming experience than the first two products.
People start creating threads about the minimum hardware requirements etc etc all that just kept feeding the hype until everbody was absolutely confident it would become the best game of the year.
Then finally at the release what do we get?
A console ported crap with which 90% of the players get random BSOD,display driver crashes, weird flickering of almost any water or ground parts ,almost not graphic altering settings and worst of all the game itself wasn´t that great either, it felt to me like a run through with very little love in it.

At this point the game development isn´t very advanced.
Crysis2 is just a frustrating example for that fact.
The developers create a great game,do a lot of effort and the company including themselves earn a great reputation and fame.
And with their next sequal they abuse that fame and reputation in a complete disregard of all their fans and admirers and create **** transfered from the console with 5 minute coding translation smack some new textures on it then call it a game. hoping that by showing some well designed trailers people will fall for it because the predeccessosr were great.
I call that blunt and evil manipulation and absuing of honest supporters of the company crytek.-.-
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