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post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by james_ant;12879339 
I never said the problem doesn't exist, it only exists for one profile. Therefore if you don't use that profile, it doesn't exist for you.

Also what exactly is "LoD" and how long do I have to flick my mouse around in game to recognize this prediction you speak of?



Like I said before the lag is caused on the Low 800/high1600. Not the 400/1600 mode.

LoD=Lift off distance is the measurement of how high you can lift the mouse while it still reads the surface and moves the cursor/crosshair. You want a lift off distance as low as possible to avoid unwanted movement while you lift and reposition the mouse while gaming.

I cannot tell you how much to move your move to notice the prediction beacause its effect movement-I mean:when you the mouse you feel strage move / hard control your left and right ingame, its pendent on you TBH.
I mean, if you dont notice any prediction you should be OK then.
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post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by james_ant;12879339 
I never said the problem doesn't exist, it only exists for one profile. Therefore if you don't use that profile, it doesn't exist for you.

Also what exactly is "LoD" and how long do I have to flick my mouse around in game to recognize this prediction you speak of?



Like I said before the lag is caused on the Low 800/high1600. Not the 400/1600 mode.

I know that silly. The Ikari optical switches between a 3060 and 3080 srom on the 800/1600 DPI setting.

400-800= loads 3060 srom
400-1600= loads 3080 srom
800-1600= loads both 3600/3080 srom = reason for lag, but it isn't really a major problem TBH..

Steelseries could have done what Zowie did with the EC1/2, but I believe that they weren't as experienced seeing as this was thier first legitimate mouse other than painting and rebranding the Intellimouse 1.1 and 3.0.
Edited by Skylit - 3/26/11 at 1:05pm
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by Skylit;12878800 
Ikari Optical actually holds a fairly decent perfect control rate on cloth.

In terms of sensor performance, it's either thier best or second best SS mouse depending on whether you prefer cloth or hard surfaces.



All sensors technically have a form of prediction, it's just a majority of them are hard coded with noticeable amounts. Of course, I know what you mean tongue.gif



Other than the lift off distance, the sensors in both mice nearly identical. The Avago ADNS-3060 in the Ikari Optical utilizes an Avago ADNS-3080 (518) SROM for it's 400-1600 DPI mode. The lag is caused by switching between the two. I really doubt you have a problem with the 518's sensor, but rather just don't care for the shape.

Out of curiosity does the 518 and the Ikari share the same perfect control/malfunction speeds (2.05+ m/s, 4.5 m/s)? I know this can vary even though some mice share the same sensor.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by sixxxxxx;12881001 
Out of curiosity does the 518 and the Ikari share the same perfect control/malfunction speeds (2.05+ m/s, 4.5 m/s)? I know this can vary even though some mice share the same sensor.

Nope, the 3060 holds a higher perfect control (2.2+m/s~) but malfunctions right after it's hit.

The 3080 is technically better when it comes to max malfunction.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by avinin1;12879479 
LoD=Lift off distance is the measurement of how high you can lift the mouse while it still reads the surface and moves the cursor/crosshair. You want a lift off distance as low as possible to avoid unwanted movement while you lift and reposition the mouse while gaming.

I cannot tell you how much to move your move to notice the prediction beacause its effect movement-I mean:when you the mouse you feel strage move / hard control your left and right ingame, its pendent on you TBH.
I mean, if you dont notice any prediction you should be OK then.
smile.gif

I see you are right about it having a high LoD but I don't think the prediction is as pronounced a problem as in some other mice.

I didn't mean to be argumentative you have given lots of info, so rep+ to you.
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post #16 of 18
Didnt feel like opening new thread so here goes..
just held an Ikari in my hands for the first time, its a decent design! If ONLY the pinkie wasnt dragged on the mouse pad now as opposed to my mx518 it might replace said mouse... well..
post #17 of 18
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Didnt feel like opening new thread so here goes..
just held an Ikari in my hands for the first time, its a decent design! If ONLY the pinkie wasnt dragged on the mouse pad now as opposed to my mx518 it might replace said mouse... well..

My fingers don't touch the pad when using Ikari. Biggest personal flaw with this mouse is the angle snapping. Would prefer more crisp mouse buttons as well, they are a bit mushy compared to DA 2013 etc. Shape is realy good imo and if the sides would have been glossy it would be even better, they are a bit slippery for me. smile.gif
post #18 of 18
ye buttons are not as crisp cuz of shell design I assume, but doesnt matter to me as long as its spammable. actually the mouse might grow on me tho, it feels kinda smooth in my hand, but my hand still prefers the big oval size of the 518.
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