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^ Different architectures u cant compare clocks.
Anyway 480 was loud as hell and alot of ppl where happy with it. Also it was a toaster along with 470/465 and alot of ppl bought it. Nowadays alot of OCNers are recommending a used gtx480 since its cheap. So in reality temps/noise is moot.
And as alot of ppl said even if it clocks to 900mhz, when ocp hits its useless. The card is limited by pci-e power (period). You want to buy a gtx590? i suggest waiting to see if non-reference designs are in the future. Or a revised edition/batch of the card.
The main concern is that even if u watercool the card, u cant get rid of ocp. As soon as the card starts consuming alot of power, ocp kicks in even if the temps are fine all over the pcb :s. So u have to disable ocp, and thus increasing ur chances of frying the vrm, even under water, aka 570s. Its just messed up really. Gtx6xx/HD7xxx series am waiting .

Edit: Also since the card takes much power, it might hurt the mobo itself. Someone with 1500 silverstone strider psu, had a 590 burnt. He didnt overclock, the guy had launch returned back turned his pc on, boom the whole thing fried and took his mobo with it. If you dont have extra power to ur pci-e slots, i suggest little to no overclock.

do you have a link to this? and also how do you add extra power to your pci-e slots?
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do you have a link to this? and also how do you add extra power to your pci-e slots?
Some of the enthusiast end motherboards have molex connectors near the top of the first x16 PCI-E slot so that extra power can be delivered. The MSI Marshall has this.
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This thread is about the GTX 590 overclock and who is comparing clock for clock?

The GTX 590 @ 607 performs the same as a 6990 @ 830Mhz. You can't compare clock for clock.

I'm just saying that for the price and if you take into account the overclock potential, the GTX 590 is the better card. Not to mention the noise of the 6990
i'm not directing anything at you specifically saulin. i think for me the 590 is the better card for a few reasons. there's obviously plenty of reasons why the 6990 is a great card for alot of people. this is the reason why you will never get everyone to agree with you. better off just saying "for me" or "to me" it's the better card.
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Some of the enthusiast end motherboards have molex connectors near the top of the first x16 PCI-E slot so that extra power can be delivered. The MSI Marshall has this.
ah i see. that's pretty smart. pretty sure my ud5 doesn't have that. seems to love volts though.
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Yea the ud9 has it, RIIIE, msi big bang...etc
Also evga sells a small pcb that u can plug into an empty pci-e slot and it gives more power to the slots, u might wanna check their products. Hows the 590 treating u so far?

Edit: OCP: over current protection.
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Yea the ud9 has it, RIIIE, msi big bang...etc
Also evga sells a small pcb that u can plug into an empty pci-e slot and it gives more power to the slots, u might wanna check their products. Hows the 590 treating u so far?

Edit: OCP: over current protection.
i checked my status and it probably won't be here until wednesday at the latest. wish i had it to try out. at my res it should be perfect. i can't wait to try it out. i have a list of games that i've been wanting to play at good fps.

i'll post picts once i get it. debating on what waterblock to order. I may go with koolance if their 509 block looks anything like the 6990. love the rivet design.
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Yea the ud9 has it, RIIIE, msi big bang...etc
Also evga sells a small pcb that u can plug into an empty pci-e slot and it gives more power to the slots, u might wanna check their products. Hows the 590 treating u so far?

Edit: OCP: over current protection.
wasn't ocp an issue with the gtx 580s at launch also? i thought i heard that they had a work around to that to stop the annoying throttling.
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Wow are you serious? 60% better overclock. Please shows us proof of this overclock
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The 6990 @ 1000Mhz has a 20% overclock, where the GTX 590 @ 789Mhz would have a 30% overclock and most 6990s have issues going past 950Mhz
He is serious, he makes a valid point and the proof is right in his post (although the math is somewhat off lol

I'll redo on your numbers. 6970 is 870 stock, 580 is 772 stock. So the 6990 is downclocked by 4.5% at stocked. Or overclocked by -4.5%. The 590 is downclocked by 21.3% at stock.

After overclocking you have that particular GTX 590 @ 2.2% and most 6990s having issue going over a 9.1% overclock.... That's actualy a 413% better overclock.

With proper VRM desing and cooling, a nonreference 590 is going to walk it, no doubt.
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He is serious, he makes a valid point and the proof is right in his post (although the math is somewhat off lol

I'll redo on your numbers. 6970 is 870 stock, 580 is 772 stock. So the 6990 is downclocked by 4.5% at stocked. Or overclocked by -4.5%. The 590 is downclocked by 21.3% at stock.

After overclocking you have that particular GTX 590 @ 2.2% and most 6990s having issue going over a 9.1% overclock.... That's actualy a 413% better overclock.

With proper VRM desing and cooling, a nonreference 590 is going to walk it, no doubt.
If the GTX 590 had a clock of 772Mhz I would agree with you but it's actually 607Mhz. I think you are comparing a 6970 and a GTX 580 there. 2 different cards and the GTX 580 walks all over the 6970 any day at stock and overclocked
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