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Originally Posted by trulsrohk View Post
If you use private trackers the isp can only track the bamdwidth and not the actual files, correct?
nope they can still see what your downloading, unless you use encryption.

the ISP dont care what you download, its MPAA thats requesting all this info. they basically have to download the same torrent as you to see who else downloading it.
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Sounds like the judge was handed some cash under the table. Record/movie companies can go fly a kite the greedy bastards.
Greedy Bastards... One could argue that your an arrogant child with a oversized sense of entitlement.

An artist has an thought, that writer puts to paper, that an studio funds to put on film, which actors portray those characters, that theaters project onto a screen.

Yes, I can see where you would be annoyed for having to pay for someone else's work. You probably have been stealing copyrighted work since the time you were old enought you could click a mouse and have a file saved on you pc.

Stealing is stealing. Im glad some woman in mid-America had to pay a hefty sum for 5 songs they could prove she illegaly downloaded, and I am glad the judge is pushing for theses peoples names to be revealed.
Edited by Spct - 3/26/11 at 7:08pm
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That won't be enough, they can still get the data off them.

Edit: and in the case of someone piggy backing on your wireless, we *the ISP's* do not care, secure your wireless internet, you are legally responsible for everything downloaded on your wireless internet, even if your grandpa downloads child porn
so what happen when someone hacks a modem and copy someone else mac and frame them for CP? I mean you can secure wifi and someone can crack and download on it, or just hack a modem.
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Private trackers only provide a mechanism for potentially disallowing RIAA/etc employees to seed out torrents on said trackers (while being less popular and less of a target). If you don't use encrypted transmissions you're just receiving these files in clear text and can be readable by anyone in your data stream.
Ahhh...ok that's how it works. There is a lot of misinformation out there. Hard to find out how things really work. Networking is not my cup of tea
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so what happen when someone hacks a modem and copy someone else mac and frame them for CP? I mean you can secure wifi and someone can crack and download on it, or just hack a modem.
crack AES encryption? good luck with that, WEP maybe
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well that sucks
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Not entirely true, if the ISP really wanted to know what you are doing they can see it, you do have to use their modem/routers/servers to get out of your house to your work.

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You are a fool, I don't use their modems, routers or servers... The Demarcation point is My Modulator/Demodulator, Virtual Private Networking is utilized on Layer 3 of the Open Systems Interconnection model in which the packet frames are encapsulated using a secure cryptographic method between two physical network segments making a Direct tunnel to a virtual private networking server, it cannot be seen at all.. I happen to use IPSec

All they would be able to see is that yeah, im connected to their network but they can't see a VPN tunnel.

You are FOOL, for the record I am NET+ Certified and I do this for a living in the Army.
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You are a fool, I don't use their modems, routers or servers... The Demarcation point is My Modulator/Demodulator, Virtual Private Networking is utilized on Layer 3 of the Open Systems Interconnection model in which the packet frames are encapsulated using a secure cryptographic method between two physical network segments making a Direct tunnel to a virtual private networking server, it cannot be seen at all.. I happen to use IPSec

All they would be able to see is that yeah, im connected to their network but they can't see a VPN tunnel.

You are FOOL, for the record I am NET+ Certified and I do this for a living in the Army.
BUT, BUT, the guy works for an ISP

lol
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BUT, BUT, the guy works for an ISP

lol
I have an issue with the Net+ certified guy saying he doesn't use his ISP's servers... since he doesn't have a direct line from his house to the other end of the VPN he has to be going through someone's network and servers...
    
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I have an issue with the Net+ certified guy saying he doesn't use his ISP's servers... since he doesn't have a direct line from his house to the other end of the VPN he has to be going through someone's network and servers...
It was stated in the point he was refuting that 'you have to use their modem, routers, etc'. Clearly not the case. Also, he isn't using any 'server' per se aside from potentially a DHCP one on the ISP side. Unless you consider routing equipment as a server, might want to go back and polish up your knowledge if that is the case.

You can see the open connections between points at a network level, but any packet you try to analyze will be encrypted and essentially unreadable.
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