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Welcome to 5 years ago... They've been putting up fake torrents for some time now. If you're silly enough to use a public tracker and download something with no feedback or not from a known ripper you deserve to be caught.

They won't put you in jail.. A woman was found guilty and fined for $6 million and they didn't collect. That's some message they are putting out there.

I suppose anyone who thinks risking getting a felony is a good idea, hey, like I said, continue on, be my guest...

Having a massive judgement is one thing, you will simply never be rich, forget it, but having a felony is going to get you blocked at the door when looking for work.
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So tell me, what's your super uncrackable formula for success?

By all means, continue...
My formula for success? I got a warning notice about 3 years ago for a file I downloaded and quickly removed 5 minutes into the download due to Peer Guardian going crazy. After that I moved to private trackers, end of story.

If you want to preach go to church.
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The government has much better things to do than run attacks against strong encryption algorithms on the general public. True, if you use something like PPTP you're asking for trouble, but good luck with something like 256-bit AES.
True..

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Did you really just state that "ISP CAN SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO", only to come back with "ISP CANNOT SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO"? Please keep your story straight. If you aren't using encryption, compressed archives are sent in clear text just like everything else.

You'd have a little more persuasive effect if you actually knew what you were talking about.
Ok, I didn't mean everything, sorry, I meant most of what you do. There are still some techniques that cannot be broken.
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My formula for success? I got a warning notice about 3 years ago for a file I downloaded and quickly removed 5 minutes into the download due to Peer Guardian going crazy. After that I moved to private trackers, end of story.

If you want to preach go to church.
All I'm really saying is, it's not worth the risk, not really...

/discussion.
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That's for the person to decide.

/everything

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The funny thing about this is it's a crime that anyone can commit from anywhere, requires no use of force or violence, no break and entry, no shoplifting of an actual physical item, and the thing that is stolen can be copied to infinity because it is merely virtual theft of someone's ideas that they have put a price tag on. Think of any other crime that falls into the same realm. I can't.

no wonder it will never be stopped.
Edited by aweir - 3/28/11 at 12:27am
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& So it has begun, the end is near...

The party is Over...

Those busted now will be what many of us call Fools...

If you didn't listen, you will be when you get a felony on your record...

Which incidentally, if you missed a recent good article was written on Yahoo, it's headline (see below)...

Help Wanted: 65,000,000 need not apply (Criminals in the US)

So having a felony just put you on the outside, like forever...

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Don't be an idiot, of course the ISPs can track what you download & where you download it from, even behind a proxy!

Only a fool would believe otherwise...
So, who sent you kid?
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The government has much better things to do than run attacks against strong encryption algorithms on the general public. True, if you use something like PPTP you're asking for trouble, but good luck with something like 256-bit AES.


Who cares? They aren't going to store every single packet that everyone receives. Prove to me exactly what data was sent on date x 3 years ago. Not going to happen.


Gasp!

Did you really just state that "ISP CAN SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO", only to come back with "ISP CANNOT SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO"? Please keep your story straight. If you aren't using encryption, compressed archives are sent in clear text just like everything else.


You'd have a little more persuasive effect if you actually knew what you were talking about.
As someone who's formally worked for an ISP and now an admin...I will say most of your arguments are correct, as are the vast majority of the past few pages but, accurate to modern standards, no.

If you're funneling activity through the ISP...Say like, Bit-Torrent for example, yes the ISP can't touch it without cause and it's actually quite difficult to prove "cause" however, believing the government has nothing better to do, is absolutely incorrect. A major fallacy.

If you think our government is doing anything BUT wasting their time, you're so mistaken it's amazing.

I can't even begin to tell you how many petitions, I had, while working at an ISP FROM the USGov't...I can't imagine what it would be like working for an ISP in Washington D.C. but, they can absolutely request and legally track ALL of your activity...What do you think the FBI exists for? Other than to waste $$$$, obviously

Now, it's not trackable to the point where I'd stop downloading but, if you're a frequent user, you've most definitely made the list.
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So, in your mind stealing from the rich to give the poor is immoral?
Maybe you should reconsider your value system, my friend.
And besides, you're not stealing.. you're taking away Potential revenue.
It would be the same if your friend asked you if Crysis 2 was worth buying and you said no.
Crytek wouldn't get money from that. But they wouldn't LOSE money.. only potential money.
They also won't get money from me for the abomination that is Crysis 2.
So, does that mean I shouldn't still play the game just because they're not worthy of my money?
I say heck no!

I never said it would work. Society is built on the premise of a lower-class of subject-able sheep, and they don't have integrity, nor can they truly appreciate anything.
It's just my personal musing. But yes, I wouldn't pay for food that I thought was awful. I'll compensate the restaurant from the ingredients and the chef's time, but I will not pay full price. In fact, the restaurant should get nothing from me if they make bad food.. unless it was personal preference.
Lot's of logic here went unnoticed by many. Please people, reread this because it's important to understand when debating the whole piracy issue.

What the MPAA and RIAA need to do is be CREATIVE. Nope, their 3 year plans don't allow for it. Pursuing individuals for sharing 5 songs, movies, games takes a lot less effort than actually producing something new and different. It's also easier to pull out the sob stories, commercials of a freakin cameraman not being able to feed his family. How about the douchebag-star-actor-Tom-Cruise types don't collect 7 figure paychecks. Then you could pay your cameramen more.
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Real question. If i happen to be able to hack into someone elses wireless router and down load from there system will they know it was my computer. Cause i have time warner but dont use my internet do to wanting to play black ops on ps3 while downloading. Also will they get an out of jail free card since it was not therre computer down loadomg?
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