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My voltages were not always even with afterburner. If u would go into after burner settings and swapped between which Gpu u wanted as master it would show the voltage variation between the gpus
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The reason I ask is because I stumbled upon a beta version of AIDA64 and its inclusion of a hotfix of GTX 590 monitoring correction... which hasn't gone un-beta yet...
Yep, been using the beta since it first came out, actually

There are too many coincidences to NOT believe the numbers...Especially when my Heaven benches are 30% below a user using stock with an I7-950@3.6ghz yet, apparently my card reported 90/90 (precision) during the entire bench.

I find that HIGHLY suspect...The cause, you ask?

My card was OC'd to 800mhz.

We've seen hundreds of reviews where the above is/was happening since day 1.

I find the same thing true today, it's not as extreme but, even with my core OC'd to 700mhz, it's a bit of a struggle.

I believe you've seen the same results before as well, if I'm not mistaken?

Yet every monitoring program you've yet listed has claimed 90%/90%...

Do you believe they're working at 90% in conjunction to produce that score?

The logical answer is...No.

Aida has shown they're not, the beta has shown they're not...

Via Voltages, I believe, the cores are being strangled when a request is made for more over x...This is what I've found to be true after editing our bios and using the Asus flavor but, to each his own, obviously.

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It idles and downclocks Jst like normal only thing was changed was the 3d min voltage the 2d voltage was left alone. Biggest reason I flashed to a higher min voltage was so I could be able to overclock on the newer drivers since it locks to ur bios min voltage
May we please see a copy of this bios?

I'm not trying to be an *******, being very serious, actually...If you've found a way to successfully edit your bios, I'd be VERY interested in seeing how it was actually done.

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My voltages were not always even with afterburner. If u would go into after burner settings and swapped between which Gpu u wanted as master it would show the voltage variation between the gpus
I never tried this...Hrmmm...Interesting.
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I used the latest inbitor 6.02 although it is not officially supported for the 590 but can be used and won't be until 6.03. Least that is what is stated in his thread at guru 3d
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Yep, been using the beta since it first came out, actually

There are too many coincidences to NOT believe the numbers...Especially when my Heaven benches are 30% below a user using stock with an I7-950@3.6ghz yet, apparently my card reported 90/90 (precision) during the entire bench.

I find that HIGHLY suspect...The cause, you ask?

My card was OC'd to 800mhz.

We've seen hundreds of reviews where the above is/was happening since day 1.

I find the same thing true today, it's not as extreme but, even with my core OC'd to 700mhz, it's a bit of a struggle.

I believe you've seen the same results before as well, if I'm not mistaken?

Yet every monitoring program you've yet listed has claimed 90%/90%...

Do you believe they're working at 90% in conjunction to produce that score?

The logical answer is...No.

Aida has shown they're not, the beta has shown they're not...
I am not quite sure what you are going on about? You do know I have the record holding score for Unigine right?

I do not see flat 90% GPU usage across the board, yet I still managed to benchmark them well.

My issue is that @ stock, the voltage is incorrectly set on GPU2. No need for you to go on another OCP crusade. The bug I found has nothing to do with that. My issue is I believe the BIOS is incorrect and fixable. What is worse is you are going to derail my thread. I want this issue fixed for everybody.
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I am not quite sure what you are going on about? You do know I have the record holding score for Unigine right?

I do not see flat 90% GPU usage across the board, yet I still managed to benchmark them well.

My issue is that @ stock, the voltage is incorrectly set on GPU2. No need for you to go on another OCP crusade. My issue has nothing to do with that. My issue is I believe the BIOS is incorrect and fixable. What is worse is you are going to derail my thread. I want this issue fixed for everybody.
do you really think they're not aware of this problem?

Do you really think Nvidia isn't?

If so, you're so mistaken it's amazing.

This problem has been pointed out since day 1 and on the 2nd driver release became blatantly obvious because of the "lock".

This isn't an OCP "crusade" this is something you're about to see in your own bios.

The issue stands that there is an issue with the cores being limited, with voltage being limited and my stance has NOT changed since my 3rd post.

I had the beta for aida before it even came out, I don't need your "mystery" link when I've been one of the testers for it.

Precision and Afterburner have NOT been reporting equally and/or decent results...

If you're going to draw a conclusion off of those programs, we might as well go ask Kadafi how good of a leader he is because it's about the same exact amount of bias.

The only reason why I'm calling foul on your thread, I mentioned, every program you've used so far, hasn't reported the problem UNTIL now when there's been an issue since day 1...That's an amazing amount of bias.

Change your monitoring software to something that detects a real difference in earlier drivers, I won't say a word to that conclusion.

Certain programs have illustrated the voltage differentiations since day 1 and it's been reported since...Nvidia sits on the throne of "fixing" this isse and as has been mentioned several times, they've eventually promised a fix.

I've found no solution via Guru 3d and the several others helping, perhaps we will but, I'd be very interested in seeing 1 in the mean time that actually works in conjunction with the current drivers.

Stupid blackberry copied instead of cutting...BOOO.
Edited by Masked - 4/25/11 at 8:39am
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dose it get up to 100'C! thats F-ing hot! I seen it run 120'C,
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do you really think they're not aware of this problem?

Do you really think Nvidia isn't?

If so, you're so mistaken it's amazing.

This problem has been pointed out since day 1 and on the 2nd driver release became blatantly obvious because of the "lock".

This isn't an OCP "crusade" this is something you're about to see in your own bios.

The issue stands that there is an issue with the cores being limited, with voltage being limited and my stance has NOT changed since my 3rd post.

I had the beta for aida before it even came out, I don't need your "mystery" link when I've been one of the testers for it.

Precision and Afterburner have NOT been reporting equally and/or decent results...

If you're going to draw a conclusion off of those programs, we might as well go ask Kadafi how good of a leader he is because it's about the same exact amount of bias.

The only reason why I'm calling foul on your thread, I mentioned, every program you've used so far, hasn't reported the problem UNTIL now when there's been an issue since day 1...That's an amazing amount of bias.

Change your monitoring software to something that detects a real difference in earlier drivers, I won't say a word to that conclusion.

Certain programs have illustrated the voltage differentiations since day 1 and it's been reported since...Nvidia sits on the throne of "fixing" this isse and as has been mentioned several times, they've eventually promised a fix.

I've found no solution via Guru 3d and the several others helping, perhaps we will but, I'd be very interested in seeing 1 in the mean time that actually works in conjunction with the current drivers.

Stupid blackberry copied instead of cutting...BOOO.
You seriously need to stop. You won't win an argument against me, because I only argue facts. I am not even arguing anything to do with OCP.

I have noticed the voltage difference since I have had my cards, and before then when I made the members list. I already said this. I am the one who made the member's list and copied all the data. I saw just about everyones voltages who posted. Who do you think put all that data togeher? I just anticipated it was just some voltage fluctuation similar to a CPU vcore on idle vs. load. I am also using 3 different programs to monitor GPU Vcore, including your AIDA64. They all report the exact same numbers all the time.

Secondly, THERE was no need for concern up until I started having errors in BOINC. I only just started using BOINC with these cards one time last week and last night. Both times I had computational errors.

Thirdly, I have so far solved the issue by forcing the stock voltage on to both GPUs. SO why would argue with me and prevent a tiny fix?
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You seriously need to stop. You won't win an argument against me, because I only argue facts. I am not even arguing anything to do with OCP.

I have noticed the voltage difference since I have had my cards, and before then when I made the members list. I already said this. I am the one who made the member's list and copied all the data. I saw just about everyones voltages who posted. Who do you think put all that data togeher? I just anticipated it was just some voltage fluctuation similar to a CPU vcore on idle vs. load. I am also using 3 different programs to monitor GPU Vcore, including your AIDA64. They all report the exact same numbers all the time.

Secondly, THERE was no need for concern up until I started having errors in BOINC. I only just started using BOINC with these cards one time last week and last night. Both times I had computational errors.

Thirdly, I have so far solved the issue by forcing the stock voltage on to both GPUs. SO why would argue with me and prevent a tiny fix?
...So, I don't argue facts at all?

The same facts I've stated since day 1, far before your "edit".

The same facts I've been doubted for that you now "confirm"...?

But, they're not "facts"?

Interesting.

I'm not arguing to prevent a tiny fix, I'm saying the powers that be are more aware than you are and it's not "just a tiny fix", as you so claim it is.

After speaking WITH Evga on Friday and a Nvidia executive, I guess I don't speak "facts" so, I will no longer speak.

I wish to withdraw from this "club" please, Alatar.

Good riddance.
Edited by Masked - 4/25/11 at 9:09am
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Anyways, it looks like the temporary fix is good so far. I am still at 0 errors computational.

Can someone with "voltage locked drivers" and the latest copy of Afterburner tell me if you are indeed able to force "stock" voltage, by increasing the clocks to 631 and then apply, while monitoring the GPU vcore before and after.

I want to see if it changes the voltage on the 2nd GPU, or the GPU with the lower voltage if they are not matching each other.

Edit:
Also how many people would be interested in an overclocking template spreadsheet, showing the power/performance curve of 3DMark11 and Unigine?

I was going to make one, but if nobody is interested, I might not bother.


Edit 2:
To make matters even more tantalizing / interesting. The two bios's on my cards are different, anyone else able to report the same?

GPU 0: 70.10.37.00.90
GPU 1: 70.10.37.00.91
GPU 2: 70.10.37.00.90
GPU 3: 70.10.37.00.91
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When I go from 612 mhz and force 630 or 631 mhz the vcore jumps to
core1: .913
core2: .912

Then after ~15 seconds falls back to idle voltage of .875 on both cores.

When running furmark with forced 630mhz voltages stay at:
core1: .913
core2: .912

When running furmark with stock 612mhz voltages stay at:
core1: .913
core2: .912


I find it interesting that the idle voltage is equal, but the 3d mode voltage is not... Maybe one of them is a better sample, but chances are that the cherry picked chips were paired to be very close..... and they should be set equal, not having one be suffocated of energy.


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done with msi afterburner v2.2.0 Beta 2
 
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