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Hey guy's here are my new GTX 590, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcggoUnEl4U
Two GTX 590 FTW ! You know we will be awaiting your benchmarks under water. FPS and temps please.
     
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Hey guys do you guys recommend gtx 590 in air cooling? I have no plan to go water cool.
My 6990 is way too long and it won't fit in my case I might grab gtx 590 because it's shorter and it will fit. I am tired of waiting for gtx 580 3gb.
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Shouldn't be that bad for air as long as you have good internal case airflow and a good mix of intake/exhaust fans.
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New drivers 270.61 64-bit and 32-bit. I'm not sure if these just came out. The "release date" was last week, but I don't see anyone running them...

Edit: I see RagingCain already posted a while ago.
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updated.

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@Alatar if you want these images for main you can use them:
I could but since you seem to have so many links, images benchies, etc. would you like to gather them to one post that I'll put under the useful links section? Crediting you ofc.

I could link the pics like that individually but the OP might get a bit cluttered.
Edited by Alatar - 4/26/11 at 6:48am
 
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updated.

I could but since you seem to have so many links, images benchies, etc. would you like to gather them to one post that I'll put under the useful links section crediting you.

I could link the pics like that individually but the OP might get a bit cluttered.
I will contact a moderator to see if they will place a second post for all the power draw / miscellaneous stuff.
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I will contact a moderator to see if they will place a second post for all the power draw / miscellaneous stuff.
Yeah good, that's a better idea actually
 
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Since I've received 4/5 PM's asking for "clarification", I'll give it.

I don't come in here to be treated like a child that doesn't give "factual information"...As an admin, especially of my company, that's all I offer.

I also don't care about BOINC...I care about the real time data from a program I helped develop/rely on, for an entire office + an entire server farm...That program has told me exactly what RagingCain claims...and I have said such, since day 1.

Examples 2+ weeks ago.

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If you guys use aida, rivatuner, msi, even Dxdiag ~ I'd be interested to know at what voltage your cores are...

Both stock and while benching ~ Especially anyone over 700mhz ~
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gpu #1 .925mv
gpu #2 .913mv

that's my max for the two. about to try and run crysis to see what the volts get up to
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That's interesting...Even at work atm: Core 1 .925v; Core 2 .940v

This card is stock too...I find that extremely interesting.

What are your cores VS voltage while running something like Crysis 2 vs Benching?
Immediately after first discovering this "issue", at my weekly meeting with Nvidia, I pointed this out and was given the "this card is perfect" attitude...That was on March 27th...Ironically, I wasn't even the first person to come to them about this issue, it was already "known" and they really didn't care.

I then called EVGA that Friday and then again last week to get an "update".

All I have said on either thread is that, it's not just voltages controlling these cards, there are strings in the bios and the drivers that you're not addressing which, as a programmer, Mr. RagingCain should KNOW to be true.

I have no issue in assisting to "fix" these cards and I'm glad it may be simple but, I quite honestly don't think it is that "simple".

I also have no issue with RagingCain spearheading this, quite honestly it benefits us all but, the disrespect has to end.

Regardless of my opinion, I've always treated you all with respect, all I ask is for the same and I'll have no issue contributing, if it's going to be like it was, where I'm treated like a 5 year old, I'd literally rather deal with our customers.
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Lots of words.
Look, I am not sure what you are wanting.

You want credit for being the first one to notice it? It's all yours.
You want credit for being convinced there is a physical problem? It's all yours.
You want me to believe there is this some nVidia conspiracy-esque issue? Well, I am not going to, but if you want to tell people I agree with you, go ahead.

We had a saying when I was in the military:
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.

As far as your high and mighty stance over me:
You give no conclusive evidence there was a physical problem.
You have given no evidence that nVidia knows about this.
You have given no evidence of any thing about anything essentially.
You also claim this is apart of the OCP. I went into the BIOS, and there is NOTHING relating to the OCP on this issue. Voltage is simply just fed wrong to the GPU it seems.

One thing I don't tolerate is BS from anyone. I don't care if you are the president of Truth.inc, I will call it how I see it.

This is the last I am talking about this though.


All I have done:
Essentially, I discovered on my own there was a problem with CUDA based application. I traced it back to voltage on GPU2. I tested a hypothesis. Solution worked. That's it. Very simply. Problem solved so far.

I am still going strong for nearly 36 hours continuous GPU computing, with 0 errors. My last error was the 24th of April.

You can see for yourself:

Errors:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results...ames=0&state=5

Valid:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results...ames=0&state=3

Processing:
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/results...ames=0&state=2

Lots CUDA units failed that day.


So far the stock clocks set to 0.925v is working perfectly. Rather than accepting that I may have come up with a solution, you suggest I am blind, refer to Khadafi, and other stupid remarks.

You claim all of my sensors are wrong, yada yada yada, and then I go and prove that your AIDA64 has had a bug with it, that didn't display the correct voltages/GPU usage for GTX 590. Then you claim thats the one you are using, you have been using this released beta for-ever, even though it was only released like two weeks ago. So even if all my sensors are wrong, the cards are working top notch on high-end physics based computation work units with 0 errors. But that doesn't matter because you don't care about BOINC, and you are an expert Alienware administrator, who builds elite and private CUDA applications, and has a private army of GTX 590s at your "disposal."

To be honest Masked, just about every post you bring up, I don't believe about 95% of the things you claim. I don't have to, and you could be telling the truth. So like I said, I am not talking about this anymore, its just going to drag on and on. I personally don't like drama, which is why I asked you to stop derailing my EVGA thread with all this over-zealousness.


@Others
I apologize for arguing this way, sometimes you just have to take a stand, and pull out some numbers for people who have lost their way. Just like I do when people say the GTX 590 doesn't overclock.

I wanted to add I saw this fantastic 6990 CFX vs. 590 SLI.

I was shocked that the GTX 590 pulled ahead.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/triple...-radeon-6990/1

@Alatar
I will pm iceblade.

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Hey guys do you guys recommend gtx 590 in air cooling? I have no plan to go water cool.
My 6990 is way too long and it won't fit in my case I might grab gtx 590 because it's shorter and it will fit. I am tired of waiting for gtx 580 3gb.
Yes, its moderately well for air, however, you need a good airflow case I am not familiar with yours, but if you are able to get a steady flow of air in the lower region, and exhausted out the back/roof, there will be little to no heat issues.

@All
Looks like TiN.... has begun. There go my benchmarks...

http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/...?t=1163&page=5

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Each GPU powered with separate 10 phase VRM, capable to feed up to 2V.

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Look, I am not sure what you are wanting.

You want credit for being the first one to notice it? It's all yours. No, obviously I wasn't since the report from Nvidia said they already knew.
You want credit for being convinced there is a physical problem? It's all yours. No, never was this about credit.
You want me to believe there is this some nVidia conspiracy-esque issue? Well, I am not going to, but if you want to tell people I agree with you, go ahead. What conspiracy? There's been an error in Adobe since 6 yet, to Adobe, it's working perfectly, no error...Is Adobe involved in a conspiracy too? Absolutely not...A company will do business as it does business and according to Nvidia, their GPU is #1, and is perfect.

We had a saying when I was in the military:
If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. Absolutely agree and this "solution" has been known since page 3, noted by Pedros and Nvidia has known of the issue since March 27th, EVGA was made aware on April 1st.

As far as your high and mighty stance over me:
You give no conclusive evidence there was a physical problem. There never had to be, the issue was so widespread and proven through this entire thread it had become common knowledge by the time you chose to "BOINC". All you have to do is start from Page 1.
You have given no evidence that nVidia knows about this.Unfortunately, I can't reveal my sources, it's a violation of my NDA, I'd lose my job and much like you beg EVGA to "tell us, the public", I don't have this option, sorry.
You have given no evidence of any thing about anything essentially. Again, this is a fallacy...Start from page 1, I've proven without a doubt different voltages were going to different cores VIA other members and they have posted their data...Among them were Pedros, Soilentblue and several others.
You also claim this is a part of the OCP. I went into the BIOS, and there is NOTHING relating to the OCP on this issue. Voltage is simply just fed wrong to the GPU it seems. I disagree with this aspect due to the strings that exist with this bios and the drivers...Have you taken a driver a part yet and actually viewed the strings? No? Have you actually dissected the entire bios yet, NOT just through a utility? No? THESE are my issues with your claims...You've done nothing to scientifically or factually prove yourself beyond evidence that's apparently only available to you and a select few.

One thing I don't tolerate is BS from anyone. I don't care if you are the president of Truth.inc, I will call it how I see it. I don't either and unfortunately, you've compounded the issue, let me explain why.

You've used 2/3 monitoring programs that haven't picked this issue up in 3 weeks when programs, like Aida (Which my office, Alienware Corp, assists in programming and gets our software WEEKS before public "retail" release) saw this on this first week of release. This was also proven Via Rivatuner and several others used between April 1st and the 15th.

Yet, you choose to use monitoring software that was INCORRECT for 3 weeks while others proved the same exact theory you're now preaching...Suddenly, those monitoring programs are now detecting the issue and NOW it's an issue opposed to 3 weeks ago when multiple members pointed this out.

In statistics this is called SEVERE BIAS and thus is only counted as an anomaly.

Again, you're using monitoring programs that failed consistently for 3 weeks and as a programmer, you accept this as fact? I'm sorry but, as an admin, that's bull****.

If a program had failed on a programmer for 3+ weeks (considering we've established this is in the bios and existed since day 1) you would've dropped them and found other solutions...Your failure to do so is absolutely suspect
.


This is the last I am talking about this though.
Thank god, all I want is a proper experiment, all I've said since day 1 and you have yet to produce 1.

All I have done:
Essentially, I discovered on my own there was a problem with CUDA based application. I traced it back to voltage on GPU2. I tested a hypothesis. Solution worked. That's it. Very simply. Problem solved so far. Again, my issue with this was the hypotheses existed weeks ago, all one had to do 3 weeks ago was test it on their own...Why now?

I am still going strong for nearly 36 hours continuous GPU computing, with 0 errors. My last error was the 24th of April.

You can see for yourself:

That's awesome, serious points for you but, you have yet to provide me with non-bias data.

So far the stock clocks set to 0.925v is working perfectly. Rather than accepting that I may have come up with a solution, you suggest I am blind, refer to Khadafi, and other stupid remarks. Incorrect...I claim common sense.

You used the word hypothesis...How does one prove something scienticifically using failed sensors?

Your sensors failed for 3 weeks, you've admitted that...Yet, they're still law when everything else worked, again, as a logical person, I find that rediculous.

Rivatuner worked, DxDiag was proven to have worked by Soilent yet, nothing mattered until after 3 weeks and 4 days, MSI afterburner showed YOU the problem, Precision showed YOU the problem...Absolutely suspect.


You claim all of my sensors are wrong, yada yada yada, and then I go and prove that your AIDA64 has had a bug with it, that didn't display the correct voltages/GPU usage for GTX 590. Then you claim thats the one you are using, you have been using this released beta for-ever, even though it was only released like two weeks ago. So even if all my sensors are wrong, the cards are working top notch on high-end physics based computation work units with 0 errors. But that doesn't matter because you don't care about BOINC, and you are an expert Alienware administrator, who builds elite and private CUDA applications, and has a private army of GTX 590s at your "disposal." This is the bull**** I was referring to...Educate yourself.

You claim to use scientific theory and yet you have a failed hypothisis from the start based on flawed sensors...That's a period and end.

Of course I won't accept that data as fact, I don't accept that from interns, why would I hold you to any other standard?

All I asked for was ACTUAL data with different sensors.

Which is interesting because all you've done this entire rant is prove my post from a month ago, to absolutely be 100% correct, with those apparent flawed sensors.

So, care to explain how I was wrong with what I posted a month ago when all you continue to do is validate it?
?


To be honest Masked, just about every post you bring up, I don't believe about 95% of the things you claim. I don't have to, and you could be telling the truth. So like I said, I am not talking about this anymore, its just going to drag on and on. I personally don't like drama, which is why I asked you to stop derailing my EVGA thread with all this over-zealousness.
I'm not over-zealous I just don't accept flawed data, which is all you've provided VIA your sensoring.
The difference between you and I is one of what we can say and what we cannot say.

You can say whatever you want because of your status/occupation and that's awesome...geniunely, that's fantastic.

I cannot...That doesn't make me 95% full of **** considering you've proven every single "theory" I had correct since day 1.

That means I simply can't post every single fact I find and that's fine with me.

What I am asking is that this unfounded *******-attitude be vanquished, that you man up and provide non-bias data via sensors that WERE NOT broken for over a month...It's a very simple request...And that you respect your peers, something you're obviously incapable of atm.

I don't think I'm asking for much but, unfortunately I may be
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