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Those are some low results you have there Rush.
My 580 was doing >25000 marks ... :x
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Maybe that's related to 3Dmarks being CPU-dependant. Those X6 are number crunchers, but they don't push 3Dmarks as high as Intel..

Anyway, I just checked my shipping status...my "classified" 590 will be here today...
I feel like turning it-in before opening the package...I don't like stories of expensive cards throtlling-down, so maybe I'll ship the card back...let's see what my etailer has to say about that...I don't feel like being stuck with a limited-edition card that everybody and their dogs are laughing at...for being a massive launch screw-up!

Stupid Nvidia, they screwed the pooch on the GTX570 weak power phases and they reproduce the same issue with another card 4-5 months after?
so what now, I'll have to increase fan speed right out of the box to prevent my flagship card from throttling at stock clocks?"

And the card might be running cooler than HD6990, but it's cool because it's throttling down?

what's next? We'll wait for a guide about "how to bake a 590"?
dunno what to do....
Edited by delavan - 3/28/11 at 3:58am
post #122 of 5154
delavan, the 590 is cooler because the gpu's have super low voltages and the pcb is smaller ... that way the cooling is efficient.

That's why you can really had volts to the card ... or at least, Nvidia discourages users to do so ... Once you increase voltage, the gpu's will be hotter, the vrm's load will increase, the cooling starts to be deficient ... The gpu's will be cooled alright ... the problem is the power circuitry .

But i mean, the damn card is a beast, just like 6990 People won't need to overclock it ... although, if you are like me ... you'll be really stressed to do so eheheh

It's like having a big red button on a control panel, with the label " JUST PRESS IN CASE OF EMERGENCy " ...

Man... every time you'll look at the damn button you will fighter not to press the damn thing
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here are my relevant bios settings, I could up the NB volts, I kept them at stock back when I was doing my cpu benching....

CPU Ration: 14
CPU Bus: 250
PCIE: 100
DRAM:1667
CPU/NB: 2000
HT Link: 2000
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CPU Volt: 1.300000
CPU/NB Volt: 1.162500
DRAM Volt: 1.500000
HT Volt: 1.20000
NB Volt: 1.10000
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CPU Load-line Cali: Enabled
CPU/NB Load-line Cali: Enabled


how much would you suggest up on the NB volts? .05?
I would up the core voltage to 1.325v first. See if that helps, if you have an OC that is "tripping" over an error on a core, it will significantly hurt benchmarks, if not BSOD. To see if you have a core failing start running Prime95 - Small FFTs test. If you are 100% stable, then you should move onto the Custom Blend tests with CPU-NB / Memory stress testing. If you also feel comfortable, I believe 250 FSB is pushing it a bit on your ASUS mobo, yet I don't see any increase in Mobo NB voltages. I would put that at 1.20 which is just a modest increase to help stabilize the FSB.

I have to tell you will get significant gains on an AM3 platform if you get your CPU-NB up to 2650~2800 MHz. 3000 MHz would be best, and the IMC is capable of it, but this is where you have to tweak both your RAM and CPU voltages. For 2800 you will need approximately 1.31~1.33 CPU-NB voltages depending on your CPU (maybe more, maybe less.) Leave LLC on for both. Leave HT Link speed to 2000, and if that voltage is on AUTO leave it there, if its not on AUTO, get it there.

What type of BSOD are you getting (which STOP code is it) because your memory voltage looks a little low for dual channel @ 1667. Which could be stock specs, I just don't know what RAM you have. I do know you can push a little more volts but not entirely necessary unless its a random BSOD below x100, and x100-125 is primarily CPU clock speed/voltage related, all though technically its all CPU related.

As far as 3D Mark 11 / Vantage go, AMD scores will never be as high as Intel based systems. Just a fact of life, however the GPU scores should be the same, or slightly in Intel's favor. Keep that in mind in just posting a Pscore or Xscore.

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Ok... GPU score is 28339 ... my 580 at 960 would do 30350 or something ...
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Ok... GPU score is 28339 ... my 580 at 960 would do 30350 or something ...
Looks like SLI is not running full steam, you confirmed both GPUs lighting up during the benchmark with either Afterburner, Precision or GPU-z?
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Well my cpu is prime95 stable for 24 hours. I know what I am doing when it comes to cpu/ram overclocking. The volts are correct for the ram, (see my system in my sig for my details).

If the CPU/NB voltage increase makes the pci-e interfaces more stable then I will try that after a few more test runs with the new driver. As of me typing I am on run #3 in a row with vantage and so far no BSOD at all. Too bad the release notes for the .91 driver don't say something like: "fixed compatibility with am3 platforms" That would convince me the issue is gone. But luckily the only time my system BSOD's with the 590 is doing 3dmark vantage/11. Playing Crysis 2, BF:BC2, L4D2, or any other game on super settings has no issues.....

As I type this run #4 has started, no errors yet.
 
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Just for reference...

GTX590 @ 700



GTX 580 @ 960



GTX 580 @ default

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Just for reference...
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Looks good so far, get the 590 GTX upto 772 w/ 2000 MHz memory and you should see very close to SLI GTX 580 (at stock).

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If the CPU/NB voltage increase makes the pci-e interfaces more stable then I will try that after a few more test runs with the new driver.
Glad the new drivers are holding you down.

It can increase stability on a highly stressed CPU/IMC but usually occurs at really 3 or 4 GPUs, or 2 GPUs, and some extra controllers like a sound card or raid controller in effect.

However, as far as performance goes, you are definitely holding your system back even if you had one GPU with a stock NB frequency.
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That's a no go Raging ... OCP will kick in, if you give more voltage than what we were using ( 0,963 or 0,975, can't remember )

I still think the GTX580 scores amazingly well for a single gpu solution!!! :x
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I was kind of excited about the 6990 and GTX 590, but I think I'll just wait for the eVGA GTX 580 3gb version to come out.
    
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