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Yes, 3GB cards would be more adequate for surround. If you want aesthetics, why don't you check out the 3GB Lightning XE 580s?
Where can you get the Lightning XE 580s? I can't find them anywhere? I'm trying to decide between them and 590s
Edited by dboythagr8 - 7/2/11 at 9:41am
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some games still get 40 fps min with the 590, i think people looking for fps should either get a 590 or 2x580's.....spend the dough man. Also, get the i5 2500k
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Where can you get the Lightning XE 580s? I can't find them anywhere? I'm trying to decide between them and 590s
MSI is currently making more, I don't think there's any store that has them in stock right now. I asked an MSI rep on the OCUK forums about it and he said that they would probably be shipped to retailers halfway through this month. I assume it will be the same for Newegg, NCIX, etc.

Keep an eye out for them
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for users with dual 590's aka quad sli. here are my results with crysis 2. As you can see quad sli does not scale at all.
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Here are some older pics of my rig I have access to here at work. I'll edit this post and get some of my updated pics with a little less dangling cables....enjoy! The cards are Classy Hydro Copper LE's from EVGA.
What SLI connector are you using, it looks awesome! They look like these, but the guy selling them says they're not flexible.. Maybe he's wrong? Because they don't look all that rigid to me.
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Is anyone running Crysis 2 through Steam able to get the benchmark to work? I can't for the life of me get it going.

I'm really close to pulling the trigger on another 590. Maybe as early as tomorrow.


Are there any dual 590 owners running their's with at 5760x1080 with three Full HD/3D 120hz panels and the latest drivers? All the reviews I can find are with old drivers. If so, I have a few questions:

How's the performance? Are you still hitting caps because of the 1.5 Vram per GPU at that resolution?

Will an i7 920 OC'd at 4.0ghz be too much of a bottleneck to bother with 2 590's in Quad and those panels?

While I know 3D Vision Surround is nearly impossible with any of these cards, even the 3gb ones (If I understand things correctly) - but how about for watching 3D movies? Could I run a 3D film to each panel at the same time, if say I wanted to have a few friends over and divide them up and have a few watch the film from each display? I'm assuming this is not the case no matter what setup I have and 3D movies can only run to one panel at a time, yes?

(Interestingly, I picked up a second pair of Nvidia 3D Vision glasses, to see if the screen would be big enough for one to watch a 3D game, while another plays it. Not only does it totally work, but even at 10' back, this 24" BenQ puts out a vivid 3D picture to both my wife's eyes and mine at the same time. Admittedly, the screen is a little small from that distance, but not enough to take you out of the movie. Nothing anyone who didn't grow up in the 70's or 80's wouldn't be used to. After all, most TV's were 19" back in those days..)

If I could get the card at a place like Fry's where I got my first card, instead of online, it'd be a no brainier. I'd go pick it up and try it out. If it wasn't worth it, or working right, I'd have 30 days to return it for a refund. But, I'll have to buy online, so I'm not sure if I should pull the trigger on a second one, or wait for Kepler. Seeing some respected owners on here already dumping their cards for 3gb VRAM ones is a little disconcerting as well.

Like I said on here before, If the card wasn't such a limited production run and botique, I'd just wait it out and see how what's coming up performs. And if the next gen stuff is disappointing or full of bugs, then I'd get a second 590 if it can do what I'm looking for.

Any input from dual 590 owners running three Full HD/3D 120hz panels on the latest drivers, and if you're still hitting caps with the 1.5gb VRAM would be appreciated!

To be clear, I understand that you definitely will with a 2560x1600 IPS panel, but until they can do 120hz, I'll stick with the 1080p ones that can.

I bought the BenQ XL2410T and I can't say enough good about it. I love this panel. I'm planning on getting 2 more, and I don't want to buy another 590, just to find that I'm still going to hit performance caps because of VRAM.

If that's the case, then I'd rather follow others lead and dump my 590 for 2 3gb 580's, or even just hold off on the two panels and another card altogether and just go with what I got until Kepler comes and we see if it's a worthy upgrade, or new architecture that is going to give every new owner the early adopter blues..

To in which case, if I waited to find , and then see that a second 590 would give me what I want and be the way to go, by then, they'll all be gone.

Right now, my rig is performing pretty Pimp with just the one 120hz panel for sure, so I'm open to waiting out for 2 more and a rig upgrade if it ends up being worth it.

So, I'm really trying to find out if 2 590's is enough to run 3 120hz panels, play games at full settings in that kind of a surround setup, and run a 3D film concurrently to all 3 panels (or in surround) - if even possible, and lastly, if my I7 920 @ 4.05 is enough for that setup or will it still be a bottleneck that makes that kind of investment pointless without a new CPU/Mobo?

Also, game wise, I'm interested in doing this for BF3. They say that if you can run BFBC2 well, you can run BF3 well. And I can. I get almost 100fps with everything turned up and 32QSAA. But I noticed that BFBC2 is one of the few games that really seemed to get a huge performance boost from a second 590, and I'd really love to be able to get 120fps constant with everything turned up when BF3 comes out in Oct.

But, I also am not sure if it's worth the investment for a second 590 and a new PSU to run it, if Kepler or whatever else is going to blow that performance out of the water.

(Sigh) None of this would be an issue if the cards weren't in such limited run yet high in demand.. But I guess that goes with the territory with vid cards at this level.

The MSI 3Gb 580 Lightning's look like fantastic cards, but another set of colored fans, just running in the card, doesn't have the same panache as the GeForce LED logo.

But of course, performance is what matters in the end.

Thanks to all who read my whole rant and any input to help me decide!

Cheers!
Edited by Shinobi Jedi - 7/2/11 at 8:29pm
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I read the whole rant and got some answers, but not to all your questions...

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Are there any dual 590 owners running their's with at 5760x1080 with three Full HD/3D 120hz panels and the latest drivers? All the reviews I can find are with old drivers. If so, I have a few questions:
Got a QUAD SLI setup here with 3 screens, two 1920x1200 and one 1920x1080 (120Hz/3D) and can't seem to get it to work together. If I finally do, I have some answers on the 5760x1080 1,5gb VRAM usage. For now I only have some answers on VRAM usage on a single screen with and without 3D Vision enabled (read on...)

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To be clear, I understand that you definitely will with a 2560x1600 IPS panel, but until they can do 120hz, I'll stick with the 1080p ones that can.
From my understanding the limitations are within the Dual Link DVI and HDMI cables (max 1920x1080@120Hz) and not with the 2560x1600 screens.

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Also, game wise, I'm interested in doing this for BF3. They say that if you can run BFBC2 well, you can run BF3 well. And I can. I get almost 100fps with everything turned up and 32QSAA. But I noticed that BFBC2 is one of the few games that really seemed to get a huge performance boost from a second 590, and I'd really love to be able to get 120fps constant with everything turned up when BF3 comes out in Oct.
An interesting one. So I fired up BFBC2 and recorded some MSI Afterburner readings (see below) including CPU and VRAM usage.

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The MSI 3Gb 580 Lightning's look like fantastic cards, but another set of colored fans, just running in the card, doesn't have the same panache as the GeForce LED logo.
I know exactly what you mean, and I don't like the blue/white theme on the MSI... Love the GeForce LED log though on the 590's! Haha... but that's a matter of taste...

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So, I'm really trying to find out if 2 590's is enough to run 3 120hz panels, play games at full settings in that kind of a surround setup, and run a 3D film concurrently to all 3 panels (or in surround) - if even possible, and lastly, if my I7 920 @ 4.05 is enough for that setup or will it still be a bottleneck that makes that kind of investment pointless without a new CPU/Mobo?
Also recorded the CPU usage on my i7 2600K @ 4.5 GHz (see screens below).


By zerounleashednl at 2011-07-03

By zerounleashednl at 2011-07-03

Conclusions:

* Quad SLI in BFBC2 scales very well (4x 80%+ and 70%+ readings)
* Non-3D 200+ FPS and 3D Vision +/- 60 FPS (no V-Sync enabled)
* For some reason the GPU's never goes 100%, not even on 1 GPU... Could it be a CPU bottleneck (even when CPU is between 40% and 70%?) Or is it driver related?
* VRAM usage on 1 screen 1080p is >1041 MB (non-3D) and >1265 (3D Vision).
* With 3 screens you wil definitely hit the 1500MB VRAM wall and I don't know what the impact is on user experience... (will you even notice?) For example Crysis 2 on 1080p single screen: after the High Res Texture update VRAM is ALWAYS 1500MB but the FPS never dips below 50 on QUad SLI, even with 3D Vision enabled, so the impact on user experience is minimum. Maybe I will do some VRAM testing with Crysis 2 also...

Hope this input will help you.
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That is super helpful. Plus rep!

Hmm.. It's an interesting quandary.

I'm not entirely sure if I'll get 3 screens or not because of where to put them. So if I stick with one screen, the a second 590 would really make a difference.

If I go with 3 screens, it sounds like I'll hit the VRam wall, to in which it'd have to be 2 580 3GB, or wait for Kepler. Which I'd probably do rather than go through the hassle of dumping my 590 and getting 2 580 3GB.

I might not do anything at this point, and just keep rocking what I have until Kepler or we see what BF3 launches and what it really needs to play it.
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That is super helpful. Plus rep!

Hmm.. It's an interesting quandary.

I'm not entirely sure if I'll get 3 screens or not because of where to put them. So if I stick with one screen, the a second 590 would really make a difference.
If you're getting 2 590s, do consider getting a 120Hz panel, even if you don't care about 3D. It'd be a waste to run 2x590s on 60Hz.
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If you're getting 2 590s, do consider getting a 120Hz panel, even if you don't care about 3D. It'd be a waste to run 2x590s on 60Hz.
I have one! I just got it

The BenQ XL2410T. I can't say enough good about it. I really, really love the panel. Though PQ is horrible out of the box and needs a calibration.

I want to get two more. But I don't know if I'll have the space. That's my issue.

But yeah, 120hz is where it's at. I used to have my rig hooked up to my 60" Plasma. But I had no problem losing that nice huge screen for 120hz smoothness.

3D is really cool too. I've been playing BFBC2 with it and it is so much fun.
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