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Memory seems way too high. It should be 1728 to start with. Did you lower everything to stock to see if you still get slow downs? You need to test stock.

Your memory speed looks high enough to cause Error Correction to occur which significantly lowers performance while on. It can also be just an unstable overclock on the GPU core too though. Test stock.

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No no no, you miss-understood me... I am not getting any slowdowns at these speeds. I get slowdowns or even driver crashes IF I increase the freq beyond 705Mhz and USING 3D Vision (in 2D works).
The ideea of the initial post was to let people know what are my clocks & voltages on a successfully GTX 590 running in 3D Vision Surround. (You can get better clocks in 2D or when using 3D Vision on one monitor.)

I followed up your advice and lowered the memory freq and found some loss in performance (nothing in real case scenarios...only in benchmarks).

Hope this makes my original intention of the poster clear.
PS: Thanks for the tips
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No no no, you miss-understood me... I am not getting any slowdowns at these speeds. I get slowdowns or even driver crashes IF I increase the freq beyond 705Mhz and USING 3D Vision (in 2D works).
The ideea of the initial post was to let people know what are my clocks & voltages on a successfully GTX 590 running in 3D Vision Surround. (You can get better clocks in 2D or when using 3D Vision on one monitor.)

I followed up your advice and lowered the memory freq and found some loss in performance (nothing in real case scenarios...only in benchmarks).

Hope this makes my original intention of the poster clear.
PS: Thanks for the tips
Well I was just pointing out that under more stress, i.e. using 3D, you were showing your cards stability was lost. Meaning in actuality, that even if its working in 2D, its not actually stable. Something like CUDA or a very GPU intensive game like Metro2033 will more than likely crash your drivers/GPU at some point as well.

Most DX9 titles don't stress out the card and some of the more newer DX11 titles have been. Most notably DX11 in Crysis 2 is sniffing out a lot of instability in peoples cards, which of course translates to, latest patch in Crysis 2 is bugged.

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Shazam.

Cards are bundled with GB M8000X Gaming mouse..
And my three screens were bundled with Zowie EC1 mouses.. So I have 5 new mouses. :/
Please send me your BIOS!!!!

Edit: One from each GPU on your 590!

PM me if you need to know how to do this, or visit my GTX 590 Flashing & Overclocking thread for a quick BIOS Grabbing guide.
Edited by RagingCain - 7/13/11 at 2:04pm
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Please send me your BIOS!!!!

Edit: One from each GPU on your 590!

PM me if you need to know how to do this, or visit my GTX 590 Flashing & Overclocking thread for a quick BIOS Grabbing guide.
I'll get back to you with the four gpu bioses as soon as I stick those sweet cards of heavenly honey in my case and get things running.
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Here's a GPU-Z Shot i will post a picture tomorrow with the GTX 590 in the case.

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Please add me to the club. I have my cards running at stock settings at the moment.
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Finally got my second card! Here's the proof! Please add me to the list!

I'm a little concerned about my temps as my X58 mobo is a first generation so I had to put the cards in the slots right next to each other to enable Quad SLI.

Of course it's the first card in Slot one I'm worried about. As the fan is pushed right up against card two.

Temps Idle:
GPU 1: 41-51c (depending if card is downclocked or not)
GPU 2: 41-51c
GPU 3: 37-41c
GPU 4: 37-43c

Temps at Full Load*:
GPU 1: 89c
GPU 2: 90c
GPU 3: 76c
GPU 4: 79c

*This was "stress tessed" by putting Metro 2033 on 'Pause' with all 4 GPU's at %95. All 4 GPU's stayed at %95 as I let the game stay on the Pause Screen for 45mins. Fans were set to Auto through EVGA precision with a monitoring profile set to bump the fans up to %100 should the GPU's hit 80c. These numbers are the very highest points they reached during that period. The temps hovered for a long time between 84-87c on GPU 1 & 2, with both seeming almost stable at 88c-89c. 90c on GPU 2 didn't happen until near the end of the test period and only lasted a few seconds, when GPU's 3 & 4 fan kicked in at %100. That knocked GPU's 1 & 2 temps right back down to 88c.

To be clear, "In Game" the temps on the first card have never gone above 81c. Not on Metro 2033 or BFBC2 after at least an hour of play. (I've only tested on those games as I know they scale well and really use all 4 GPU's)

So, if I need a new mobo, is it worth it to get a new CPU as well? Is it worth it to get Sandy Bridge yet? Or should I wait for Ivy Bridge? Or should I just get another X58 mobo like an EVGA X58 Classified FTW?

Or do nothing, as I'm fine?

I also noticed one of my Dimm Slots is dead, knocking me down to 8gb of Ram. I can RMA it as I have a lifetime warranty, but if I'm gonna yank it out, I'd rather put something new back in. So, if it's worth waiting until after Sandy Bridge, and just roll with what I have, I'm okay with just 8gb of Ram if I'm just gaming, right?

And if my temps on my top card, stay around 78-81c in game, I'm cool with the two cards next to each other like that until I upgrade, right?

As for the performance, it's beyond what I expected. I'm really happy with it. For example, the Prologue Level on Metro 2033 usually would chug at some point. After installing this second card, that level averaged 70fps! It was a whole new play experience.

I'm gonna do some more testing in game. I look forward to feedback on my temps and if it's critical I do a mobo (and maybe CPU) change or not.

Thanks for reading! Please add me to the list!

Cheers!







Edited by Shinobi Jedi - 7/14/11 at 7:04am
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For ya'll 590 users with water-blocks, what kind of temperatures are you seeing on the cores & voltage regulators? I'm especially interested in quad-sli figures. As a follow up, has maintaining these beefy GPUs @ a nice & chilly operating temperature resulted in substantial impact on your peak (stable) overclocks?
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Finally got my second card! Here's the proof! Please add me to the list!
Congrats!

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I'm a little concerned about my temps as my X58 mobo is a first generation so I had to put the cards in the slots right next to each other to enable Quad SLI.
Not going to lie your temps are indeed on the high side.

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Of course it's the first card in Slot one I'm worried about. As the fan is pushed right up against card two.

Temps Idle:
GPU 1: 41-51c (depending if card is downclocked or not)
GPU 2: 41-51c
GPU 3: 37-41c
GPU 4: 37-43c

Temps at Full Load*:
GPU 1: 89c
GPU 2: 90c
GPU 3: 76c
GPU 4: 79c

*This was "stress tessed" by putting Metro 2033 on 'Pause' with all 4 GPU's at %95. All 4 GPU's stayed at %95 as I let the game stay on the Pause Screen for 45mins. Fans were set to Auto through EVGA precision with a monitoring profile set to bump the fans up to %100 should the GPU's hit 80c. These numbers are the very highest points they reached during that period. The temps hovered for a long time between 84-87c on GPU 1 & 2, with both seeming almost stable at 88c-89c. 90c on GPU 2 didn't happen until near the end of the test period and only lasted a few seconds, when GPU's 3 & 4 fan kicked in at %100. That knocked GPU's 1 & 2 temps right back down to 88c.
Due to spacing requirements, thats about all you can do is adjust the fan profile. Normally I would also suggest undervolting, but that is something you want to avoid on the 590. Despite running cooler, its already prone to being at too low of a voltage for many cards.

It would also help to know the room temperature. If it is above 75f (~23.33c) this obviously will greatly impact the entire systems coolness, if this was at a lower temperature, then it is definitely something you are going to have to work out.

I will tell you this, spacing out the cards will help in the 5c~10c range, but you also may want to consider different cases and water cooling.

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To be clear, "In Game" the temps on the first card have never gone above 81c. Not on Metro 2033 or BFBC2 after at least an hour of play. (I've only tested on those games as I know they scale well and really use all 4 GPU's)

So, if I need a new mobo, is it worth it to get a new CPU as well? Is it worth it to get Sandy Bridge yet? Or should I wait for Ivy Bridge? Or should I just get another X58 mobo like an EVGA X58 Classified FTW?

Or do nothing, as I'm fine?
If you get a Sandy Bridge, you need to have 2x PCI-E slots with the full 16x. The 590 needs as much PCI-E bandwidth it can possibly gobble up. I have already tested this, I saw in the realm of 25~50% performance lost per card running it in 8x.

Also of note I have an EVGA x58 E770 Classified board with a water block installed. So if you are going water and a new board, that will definitely help

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I also noticed one of my Dimm Slots is dead, knocking me down to 8gb of Ram. I can RMA it as I have a lifetime warranty, but if I'm gonna yank it out, I'd rather put something new back in. So, if it's worth waiting until after Sandy Bridge, and just roll with what I have, I'm okay with just 8gb of Ram if I'm just gaming, right?
Should be enough!

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And if my temps on my top card, stay around 78-81c in game, I'm cool with the two cards next to each other like that until I upgrade, right?

As for the performance, it's beyond what I expected. I'm really happy with it. For example, the Prologue Level on Metro 2033 usually would chug at some point. After installing this second card, that level averaged 70fps! It was a whole new play experience.
Yes, as long as you always got your eyes on temperature. There is nothing wrong with up to 85c, some people argue 90c too, but I don't go above 85c when on air cooling.

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I'm gonna do some more testing in game. I look forward to feedback on my temps and if it's critical I do a mobo (and maybe CPU) change or not.

Thanks for reading! Please add me to the list!

Cheers!
I want to see benchmarks!
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I thought circa 90c was the norm for an air cooled card? I'm running a single 590 in a Raven RV02-EW (with the uprated AP181 fans) and my stock card hits 88c when under maximum load for long periods of time. I hope this isn't something to be concerned about!
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I thought circa 90c was the norm for an air cooled card? I'm running a single 590 in a Raven RV02-EW (with the uprated AP181 fans) and my stock card hits 88c when under maximum load for long periods of time. I hope this isn't something to be concerned about!
I don't know what the thermal max is for the 590, but the 580, you want it under 95~97c. So according to nVidia, anything under that is no harm no foul. I just personally keep it under 85c for the longevity of the card.

Its a personal habbit of mine, don't let me scare you. Officially its okay, but I wouldn't want it that way

Although I love the Raven, I still think the 590 dumps air into the case. Which sort of defeats the purpose of the 90deg rotation on the motherboard. If you can push that air out faster, the better.

Of course water cooling is always an option.
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