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Quote:
Originally Posted by RagingCain;14509681 
I like TwoCables and puts out reliable stuffs/infos. I would say give it a whirl.

Yeah he seems fairly knowledgable!

Benchmarks complete, so here they are;
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Metro 2033 @ 4GHz / 590 @ 630MHz

Average Framerate: 30.33
Max. Framerate: 178.03
Min. Framerate: 2.74

Metro 2033 @ 4GHz / 590 @ 670MHz

Average Framerate: 33.00
Max. Framerate: 221.63
Min. Framerate: 6.70

Crysis @ 4GHz / 590 @ 630MHz

Average Framerate: 54.20
Max. Framerate: 59.97
Min. Framerate: 23.24

Crysis @ 4GHz / 590 @ 670MHz

Average Framerate: 56.04
Max. Framerate: 62.17
Min. Framerate: 31.55

Mafia II @ 4GHz / 590 @ 630MHz

Average Framerate: 100.8
Max. Framerate: -
Min. Framerate: -

Mafia II @ 4GHz / 590 @ 670MHz

Average Framerate: 107.6
Max. Framerate: -
Min. Framerate: -

GTA IV @ 4GHz / 590 @ 630MHz

Average Framerate: 62.8
CPU Usage: 56%

GTA IV @ 4GHz / 590 @ 670MHz

Average Framerate: 62.1
CPU Usage: 55%

Now I'm going to quickly jot down the Overclock settings as above and see what happens...

Edit: Well no luck there! I copied the settings exactly and my machine just wouldn't boot with the multiplier set at 48 - it kept freezing on the Windows logo. I kept creeping up with the offset until I reached +0.070 but it still wouldn't start up and I didn't really want to push any further until I know I can do safely!

It wouldn't do x47 either but it's booted OK at x46, but for some reason the core speed is staying at 4600.0MHz @ 1.392-1.400v. I don't particularly want to run the voltage this high if I don't have to (unless it is safe to do so, I hear people saying 1.44 is acceptable for 24/7). I also don't understand why it won't downclock to idle any more?
Edited by Smo - 8/8/11 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by Smo;14509838 
Yeah he seems fairly knowledgable!

Benchmarks complete, so here they are;



Now I'm going to quickly jot down the Overclock settings as above and see what happens...

Edit: Well no luck there! I copied the settings exactly and my machine just wouldn't boot with the multiplier set at 48 - it kept freezing on the Windows logo. I kept creeping up with the offset until I reached +0.070 but it still wouldn't start up and I didn't really want to push any further until I know I can do safely!

It wouldn't do x47 either but it's booted OK at x46, but for some reason the core speed is staying at 4600.0MHz @ 1.392-1.400v. I don't particularly want to run the voltage this high if I don't have to (unless it is safe to do so, I hear people saying 1.44 is acceptable for 24/7). I also don't understand why it won't downclock to idle any more?

You have something called Load Line Calibration on High/Ultra (if it matches TwoCables settings.) This disables C1E/SpeedStep/C-State on tons of motherboards. This is what controls idling etc.

It looks like people do go much higher, 1.55 etc. to get 5.0 GHz and some as low as 1.40v. I was under the impression that 32nm max voltage was about 1.4v like mine, but it maybe a more refined architecture than mine. Unfortunately, the SandyBridge is not a CPU I have tamed, and thus I would have a hard time guiding recommend safe courses of action.

Something tells me official max voltage by Intel is the same as mine.

You also have 4 GHz results, try testing 4.6 GHz and see if there is a noticeable difference.
Edited by RagingCain - 8/8/11 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by RagingCain;14510800 
You have something called Load Line Calibration on High/Ultra (if it matches TwoCables settings.) This disables C1E/SpeedStep/C-State on tons of motherboards. This is what controls idling etc.

It looks like people do go much higher, 1.55 etc. to get 5.0 GHz and some as low as 1.40v. I was under the impression that 32nm max voltage was about 1.4v like mine, but it maybe a more refined architecture than mine. Unfortunately, the SandyBridge is not a CPU I have tamed, and thus I would have a hard time guiding recommend safe courses of action.

Something tells me official max voltage by Intel is the same as mine.

You also have 4 GHz results, try testing 4.6 GHz and see if there is a noticeable difference.
I've just downloaded and updated my BIOS to the latest version (1850) and reset optimized defaults. I then attempted the previous settings listed by TwoCables but it wouldn't boot into a 46 multiplier like before which was odd, so I've reverted back to the only changes being x44 and VRM Freq. of 350 to get me booted. I've posted in the P67 owners thread in the hope that someone there can help me out too.

One thing I have noticed though (back on previous overclock) is that with only the multiplier and vrm frequency changed, at 4.4GHz my vcore (according to CPU-Z) is hitting as high as 1.380v! That seems FAR too high to me for 4.4, or am I tripping?
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This could give you a baseline. I've seen a dozen different recommended safe voltage req's for these chips and I decided on a middle ground with a slight step to the left. 1.5v was someone, who made a very lengthy overclocking guide for Sandy Bridge, suggestion for the limit for max safe 24/7 voltage, this was the highest I found for safe daily use and 1 of the lowest I found was 1.4v. So I took a middle ground on that with the step, and chose 1.43v as my safemax and of course this depends on temps. You won't lose system idle with upping load line calibration. It might flucuate more than before but it won't just sit at max frequency the whole time.

Alot of cpu's dont like multipliers, a 44-45 multi and then tweaks to your bclk is what you wanna aim for. Seems BCLK requires less voltage than the hard multiplier. a 48 multi for me requires around 1.46v while I'm doing 4.770 right now @ 1.425v due to the high BCLK. And mine is about 10 runs of vantage, 5 of heaven, several games of SC2, 25 runs of Linx, 10 runs of IBT @ Very High, and 3hours of Prime95 blend stable.
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i'm running 24/7 5GHz @ 1.488v and some people even cant get higher than 4.5 @ 1.45v - Sandy OC is all about luck with CPU
btw Internal PLL Overvoltage helps to get higher clocks. i couldnt boot w/o it with multiplier higher than x47
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Just a heads up 280.26 WHQL drivers have been released:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html

I don't think performance has changed a great deal but I will be switching in a few hours, I will mention anything regarding voltage being unlocked.

According to release notes: All previous fixes from 280.19 drivers included. With minor tweaking, mostly for extra 3D Profiles. Emphasis has been made on Crysis 2 and its 3D.

Claims to have Crysis 2 flickering in dual/tri SLI setups fixed. No mention of Quad, but then I didn't have flickering...

Looks like this isn't a major change, but has some tweaking. Definitely can't be bad.
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installed 280.26 and now i cant change the voltage...fixed 0.975 (btw not even stock voltage)
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installed 280.26 and now i cant change the voltage...fixed 0.975 (btw not even stock voltage)

Confirmed, voltage is locked down again, however 0.963v is no longer the maximum, my voltage still reads 0.975 like Wogga said. So I don't know if its what I have as my BIOS or Nvidia locked it to 0.975 and left default alone, i.e. changed maximum voltage 0.975v. I will play around with a BIOS flash later. Recommend to stick with 280.19 unless you are wanting to play Crysis 2...might test out a BIOS with the default voltage to 1.05 to see if it will allow that high.

I wouldn't get it upset just yet, it could just be a compromise for enthusiasts and maintain product safety. Most of us know that the sweet spot is about 725 MHz @ 0.975v anyways.

@Smo, Tept
I didn't want to leave it in the dark, so I hunted down the product specification sheet by Intel, and much to my surprise, Intel did say up to 1.52 (and by all estimates) Intel is usually on the conservative side.

I included the proof:
sbvid.png
sbvidnotes.png

Since there were notes, I included them too.

If you want a direct link:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/2nd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
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Do they still have voltage unlocked? Its only with 2.2 beta in afterburner right? SB overclocking is definitely more luck of the draw as you can see it took a good amount of vcore for me to get to 4.5 but I'm happy just to have a rig up and running again. From what I understand some chips just plain wont go past a certain multi
Edited by Robitussin - 8/9/11 at 9:48am
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The voltage is locked with 280.26

I can only go to .913mV now, instead of the .95mV I need to be stable 710 mhz.

I am going to test the crysis 2 fix claims, if it works I will stay on this one, if not I am going to revert for the overclock.

(I have a gtx 275 for physx and it causes flickering in crysis 2)
 
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