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Might be trying my card again, Smo any suggestions on drivers and settings. Which app did you use to OC the card??
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Might be trying my card again, Smo any suggestions on drivers and settings. Which app did you use to OC the card??
I'd go with driver set 280.19 and overclock with MSI Afterburner (although Precision should be fine). I've set my core voltage to 0.950v (950) for both cores and Core Clock to 700Mhz. I then ran Kombustor for 15 minutes, then the 3DMark11 and Heaven 2.5 benchmarks to check maximum temps and stability. My fan profile is set to kick in at 95% over 60c and keeps my max temp at ~73c.
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Is there any probability of seeing a 6GB version of the 590? I would like to get a 590, but it does not have quite enough VRAM for my resolution.
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Is there any probability of seeing a 6GB version of the 590? I would like to get a 590, but it does not have quite enough VRAM for my resolution.
I think the closest bet would've been the ASUS Mars II, but that one is 1.5GB / GPU.

I haven't heard of any other manufacturers working on a refresh.
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Is there any probability of seeing a 6GB version of the 590? I would like to get a 590, but it does not have quite enough VRAM for my resolution.
I have the same monitor, will let you know how it goes..
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Is there any probability of seeing a 6GB version of the 590? I would like to get a 590, but it does not have quite enough VRAM for my resolution.
There hasn't been any indication as yet - NVIDIA wanted to keep the PCB of the 590 as small as they possibly could, which unfortunately is why the first revision of the 590 (the 501) has 'cost effective' (read as; not particularly good) VRMs. In all fairness I doubt that they will ever release a 6GB model, especially with Kepler being just around the corner.

I'm also 100% certain that you will hit the VRAM wall at that resolution, I max out my memory at 1080p on Crysis 2 with the High-Res pack and DX11 patches.
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There hasn't been any indication as yet - NVIDIA wanted to keep the PCB of the 590 as small as they possibly could, which unfortunately is why the first revision of the 590 (the 501) has 'cost effective' (read as; not particularly good) VRMs. In all fairness I doubt that they will ever release a 6GB model, especially with Kepler being just around the corner.

I'm also 100% certain that you will hit the VRAM wall at that resolution, I max out my memory at 1080p on Crysis 2 with the High-Res pack and DX11 patches.
There is a post here somewhere by RagingCain that explains that this is not the case.

I can't remember the specifics, but essentially he was explaining with a lot better clarity than I am now, that the game isn't really hitting a VRam limit, but is just scaling memory, so it looks as if it's always maxed.

If you're getting good framerates most of the time at the resolution you're worried about, then you're probably not hitting a VRam wall.

But what about micro stuttering? Once might ask, in regards to the VRam wall..

Check your HD, I say. Unless you're running an SSD or a Velociraptor, often that micro stuttering is your HD not being fast enough (even at 7200rpm) to keep up with the cards/games and one sees jitters or frame rate stutters as the HD slows down the game to feed it bits of info.

But SMO, maybe in your case, you are hitting the wall running two XL2410T (so Jedi!)

Yet, if running one monitor, even an IPS at 2560x1600, I'd be surprised if walls were being hit especially with Quad SLI.

But I'll be the first to admit, I'm a gamer first and not a programmer or Hardware specialist, so I could be wrong on all of this.

I'm sure RagingCain can clarify when he pops on here.

Personally, I don't think one, or even two 590's is going to hit the same limitations that people were complaining about last May with the 280.19 driver.

But maybe I'm just being biased? Because unlike a few, I freaking love my cards. I don't overclock them, I just game, game, game. Often at 120-200fps+ no matter the game.

If you're an overclocker or system pusher 'only' then I can see why one may have problems with these cards. But if you bought them solely to play games, and think you're still going to have issues, then let me send you to rehab. Because that is some serious crack you're smoking.

For me, these cards just keep getting better and better
Edited by Shinobi Jedi - 8/16/11 at 11:48am
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post #2008 of 5154
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There is a post here somewhere by RagingCain that explains that this is not the case.

I can't remember the specifics, but essentially he was explaining with a lot better clarity than I am now, that the game isn't really hitting a VRam limit, but is just scaling memory, so it looks as if it's always maxed.

If you're getting good framerates most of the time at the resolution you're worried about, then you're probably not hitting a VRam wall.

But what about micro stuttering? Once might ask, in regards to the VRam wall..

Check your HD, I say. Unless you're running an SSD or a Velociraptor, often that micro stuttering is your HD not being fast enough (even at 7200rpm) to keep up with the cards/games and one sees jitters or frame rate stutters as the HD slows down the game to feed it bits of info.

I probably have this all backwards or wrong, but I'm sure RagingCain can clarify when he pops on here.

Personally, I don't think one, or even two 590's is going to hit the same limitations that people were complaining about last May with the 280.19 driver.

But maybe I'm just being biased? Because unlike a few, I freaking love my cards. I don't overclock them, I just game, game, game. Often at 120-200fps+ no matter the game.

If you're an overclocker or system pusher 'only' then I can see why one may have problems with these cards. But if you bought them solely to play games, and think you're still going to have issues, then let me send you to rehab. Because that is some serious crack you're smoking.

For me, these cards just keep getting better and better
Interesting! I'll have a look through his posts and see if I can find it. Admittedly I am still getting ~80-100fps in Crysis 2 with the DX11 patches and Hi-Res textures so you may well be right! MSI Afterburner has been lying to me, haha.
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post #2009 of 5154
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you can score a pair of 590s for ONE of these cards.
A pair of 590s for a grand? Where? I might get that!
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There is a post here somewhere by RagingCain that explains that this is not the case.

I can't remember the specifics, but essentially he was explaining with a lot better clarity than I am now, that the game isn't really hitting a VRam limit, but is just scaling memory, so it looks as if it's always maxed.

If you're getting good framerates most of the time at the resolution you're worried about, then you're probably not hitting a VRam wall.

But what about micro stuttering? Once might ask, in regards to the VRam wall..

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But SMO, maybe in your case, you are hitting the wall running two XL2410T (so Jedi!)

Yet, if running one monitor, even an IPS at 2560x1600, I'd be surprised if walls were being hit especially with Quad SLI.

But I'll be the first to admit, I'm a gamer first and not a programmer or Hardware specialist, so I could be wrong on all of this.

I'm sure RagingCain can clarify when he pops on here.

Personally, I don't think one, or even two 590's is going to hit the same limitations that people were complaining about last May with the 280.19 driver.

But maybe I'm just being biased? Because unlike a few, I freaking love my cards. I don't overclock them, I just game, game, game. Often at 120-200fps+ no matter the game.

If you're an overclocker or system pusher 'only' then I can see why one may have problems with these cards. But if you bought them solely to play games, and think you're still going to have issues, then let me send you to rehab. Because that is some serious crack you're smoking.

For me, these cards just keep getting better and better

That is interesting. How can I know for sure. There is basically only one game that I want to play, probably for a few years, and at the moment precision indicates that all my VRAM, 1GB, is being used up. For the most part I get 40-60FPS, with shadows turned off. Shadows are not critical to me, but clipping and view distance is, so I want to be able to crank it up all the way and it still run smooth at 60+FPS. I am guessing that a GTX580 would allow me to get better FPS, not sure how much more though, and not sure if the 1.5GB of VRAM are going to cut it. So I am debating 2xGTX580 1.5GB, GTX580 3GB, or GTX590 3GB. I understand that the first and third option are 1.5GB x 2, and not really 3GB.

2 x GTX590 sounds awesome, but not sure how much I would benefit.

Any help steering me in the right direction would be appreciated. And thanks for the help so far.
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