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Well, so 2 things happened this weekend.

#1, I blew up my 590 (NOT by overclocking, thank you)

and #2, I successfully OC'd my card (again) to 850mhz.

Okay, now #1 did not occur by pumping the vcore or, anything like that...It actually occurred because of a surge.

I was replacing my water loop so I had the AX1200 switched off...I had an intern helping me replace my water loop so, there was distilled water literally almost everywhere.

Well, Erica (the intern) bumped the power button WHILE I was adjusting the molex that feeds power to the PCIE on a Classified 3...

The motherboard surged on and the card actually fried out while I was staring at it...

The entire process happened in less than a second because I barely got the Fbomb out before the card went CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH PEW.

Distilled water is non-conductive and it's all I use so, it definitely wasn't the water, it was just 100% a surge...Thanks again CL-P!

EVGA got me a card out yesterday, will be here today and...again, thank god.

#2 ~ Now, before all this happened and I decided to swap out my water loop, I finally had time to do Cain's entire how-to at home.

I think the results spoke for themselves...I had the card at .95v @853mhz...It was running like a champ, just like the first week I had it, so I was VERY happy...

Although I/We frequently see benches of the 590's beating 6990's at stock, it was nice to know that we could achieve some overclocking with some minor tweaking...

This latest driver run though, is terrible so, I suggest nobody update to this WHQL...30+ clients already called in complaining about 590 issues...and why they're forwarded to my office, god only knows.

New card comes in T-minus 90 minutes...Can't wait to get it home later!!!
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Well, so 2 things happened this weekend.

#1, I blew up my 590 (NOT by overclocking, thank you)

and #2, I successfully OC'd my card (again) to 850mhz.

Okay, now #1 did not occur by pumping the vcore or, anything like that...It actually occurred because of a surge.

I was replacing my water loop so I had the AX1200 switched off...I had an intern helping me replace my water loop so, there was distilled water literally almost everywhere.

Well, Erica (the intern) bumped the power button WHILE I was adjusting the molex that feeds power to the PCIE on a Classified 3...

The motherboard surged on and the card actually fried out while I was staring at it...

The entire process happened in less than a second because I barely got the Fbomb out before the card went CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH PEW.

Distilled water is non-conductive and it's all I use so, it definitely wasn't the water, it was just 100% a surge...Thanks again CL-P!

EVGA got me a card out yesterday, will be here today and...again, thank god.

#2 ~ Now, before all this happened and I decided to swap out my water loop, I finally had time to do Cain's entire how-to at home.

I think the results spoke for themselves...I had the card at .95v @853mhz...It was running like a champ, just like the first week I had it, so I was VERY happy...

Although I/We frequently see benches of the 590's beating 6990's at stock, it was nice to know that we could achieve some overclocking with some minor tweaking...

This latest driver run though, is terrible so, I suggest nobody update to this WHQL...30+ clients already called in complaining about 590 issues...and why they're forwarded to my office, god only knows.

New card comes in T-minus 90 minutes...Can't wait to get it home later!!!
Sucks to hear about the surge dude but at least it's not out of your pocket!

I'm amazed at hitting 850 core at just 0.95v - is that solely due to keeping the temperatures down? My understanding was that voltage is needed regardless?

Also - how does the AX1200 handle these cards in SLi? I sent back my NZXT Hale90 850w to RMA today because it was clicking (see below);


I'm trying to get the company I bought it from to replace it (or at least let me upgrade to, if I pay the difference) the AX1200.
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Sucks to hear about the surge dude but at least it's not out of your pocket!

I'm amazed at hitting 850 core at just 0.95v - is that solely due to keeping the temperatures down? My understanding was that voltage is needed regardless?

Also - how does the AX1200 handle these cards in SLi? I sent back my NZXT Hale90 850w to RMA today because it was clicking (see below);

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPF9eu4s8Hw

I'm trying to get the company I bought it from to replace it (or at least let me upgrade to, if I pay the difference) the AX1200.
I use the AX1200 exclusively in the office after ditching the Ultra X4's...Never been happier with a PSU to be 100% honest.

It could/can handle the 590's in SLI and even handles the 980x OC I've got going, with some headroom.

I think after all is said and done, on the 1200, with 2x590's you have 100w of headroom before the 1200 and a possible 1-200w+.

On this card, hitting 850mhz was never a problem...It was very easy and very rewarding...If you look back in this thread, before Cain and I had our "battle of the OCP" I actually had the card at 850mhz from day 1...(Before the driver limitations) so, I don't quite have an answer for you...

My personal card was #12...I haven't seen the RMA# to my new card yet but, I don't imagine I'll be quite as lucky
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any benches @853 or games? wonder about stability
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I use the AX1200 exclusively in the office after ditching the Ultra X4's...Never been happier with a PSU to be 100% honest.

It could/can handle the 590's in SLI and even handles the 980x OC I've got going, with some headroom.

I think after all is said and done, on the 1200, with 2x590's you have 100w of headroom before the 1200 and a possible 1-200w+.

On this card, hitting 850mhz was never a problem...It was very easy and very rewarding...If you look back in this thread, before Cain and I had our "battle of the OCP" I actually had the card at 850mhz from day 1...(Before the driver limitations) so, I don't quite have an answer for you...

My personal card was #12...I haven't seen the RMA# to my new card yet but, I don't imagine I'll be quite as lucky
Cheers dude, that's excellent news. Interesting about the OC on the 590 - I assumed that to hit 850MHz core you'd need plenty more than 0.950v! I'd have expected closer to 1.1-1.15v (which we all know pops these things).

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I hope they let you control voltage. Can someone post back to confirm please?
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...LOL, if you actually got a replacement for a "bad overclocker", I would want full documentation because I //WILL// be returning 3/4 of Alienware's total stock and getting replacements...For quite nearly //EVERYTHING//.

Under contract, I "have heard" of a couple vendors doing this only because the clocks advertised in the contract, weren't what the vendor actually received...Thus, it was a breach of contract.

As an individual, IE, a consumer; you're only promised the clocks on the box...That's it, nothing more, nothing less...You accept the contract as a consumer the moment you open that box.

Aside from a vendor, I have NEVER heard/seen or even an incling of a company EVER replacing a consumer end card because "it didn't OC enough"...And like I said, if that EVER happened, vendors would be jumping on it faster than a pig in...well, you know.



I actually disagree with this.

I don't really support Physx, I see it as a limited resource however, by adding a 580, even just for Physx, some great things can be done...Especially if you multi-monitor.

I've actually been toying with the idea of adding a 580 due to the fact that, you could run 2 monitors off of the 580 alone while running the main monitor (gaming) off of the 590...

While you don't quite need the 580, having a fermi with that much "beef" makes a big difference.

I have 1 of the interns running this "setup" and it's actually very successful...His frame rates kicked up, issues with the 590 were "avoided" and the 580 runs like a champ.

The only real question is...Is it worth the 500$ to kick your frame rates up 15%?

For most of us, no...Obviously, we have better things to do with 500$.

For the rest of us...It is a good solution and like I mentioned, you DO bypass some of the issues with the 590 just for the sheer fact that you're "working around" some of the driver-based crapola.
Well in this sense they've breached the contract by advertising my VRAM is 3GBS. But it's not. It's 1.5GB mirrored, because that's how SLI works. So I really only have 1.5GB of VRAM available, and on the box it advertises 3GB.

Up yours EVGA xD
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Logically Kepler would be the superior upgrade. Kepler is 6x Fermi. While Maxwell will only be ~3x Kepler. So logically I'd be paying $400 for 6x current tech, instead of $400 for 3x then current tech. Besides that, I believe GPU and CPU power is going to drastically outrun video game power. I'm willing to bet money you will be able to run every single game that comes out during the Maxwell generation on a 660-670-680(Kepler) at max graphics with 0 hiccup.

I mean damn, Battlefield 3 already looks 99% like a damn movie and its going to be maxed on a 580. I truly believe the only thing Maxwell is going to really shine for during its time is going to be monstrous surround setups at unrealistically high resolutions on monitors that dont even exist yet. Otherwise Kepler will do just fine.

Plus Maxwell is likely to be late 2014 possibly even 2015 since Fermi dropped in 09 and Kepler isnt expected to land til early 12, so if you put it to logic that means at least 2.5yrs for Maxwell putting us at '14.5~15. I think i could manage to stash away $400 over the course of 2.5yrs lol.

I dont believe for a second that ATI and Nvidia are going to rush out Maxwell when they have the entire 7xxx and 6xx series to milk for money for awhile.
I have a few arguements for this.

First off, do you really see any games even trying to push the 590 coming out next year? Because I still seing us running anything max.

The next gen of consoles come out in 2014, meaning as well game budgets will go up. There will be a much bigger bump in graphics and quality as opposed to next year.

Maxwell will probably be Direct X 12. That sounds nice to me..

So how I look at it. Even if Maxwell doesn't come out till 2014, it's worth it. I'd rather save these 2 years so I can SLI two Maxwell cards.

So yes, you have some what of a point. But I don't see any game ******* with my 590 for a very long time. About...2014 I'd say ;o

And the 590 will get a lot cheaper by the time keplar comes out. So even if some mystical huge budget game comes out, I'll just SLI my next 590.
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Well in this sense they've breached the contract by advertising my VRAM is 3GBS. But it's not. It's 1.5GB mirrored, because that's how SLI works. So I really only have 1.5GB of VRAM available, and on the box it advertises 3GB.

Up yours EVGA xD
Uh, what is the total memory on the entire PCB? I believe its 3GB. You may be unhappy with it, or their choice of marketing, but it does have 3GB of VRAM total.

Have no one to be mad at except yourself if you bought one thinking it was 3GB. If you weren't sure, could have asked any one of us. Its not even EVGA alone advertising this card as 3GB... don't know why you are angry at one of the 6 companies....

Why would you need 3GB anyways? The power of these 590 GPUs runs out before you could actually use 3GB of VRAM.

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I have a few arguements for this.

First off, do you really see any games even trying to push the 590 coming out next year? Because I still seing us running anything max.

The next gen of consoles come out in 2014, meaning as well game budgets will go up. There will be a much bigger bump in graphics and quality as opposed to next year.

Maxwell will probably be Direct X 12. That sounds nice to me..

So how I look at it. Even if Maxwell doesn't come out till 2014, it's worth it. I'd rather save these 2 years so I can SLI two Maxwell cards.

So yes, you have some what of a point. But I don't see any game ******* with my 590 for a very long time. About...2014 I'd say ;o

And the 590 will get a lot cheaper by the time keplar comes out. So even if some mystical huge budget game comes out, I'll just SLI my next 590.
I had 2x 590s, there were times when I needed more power. Metro2033 comes to mind as one of them. Games are already out surpassing our hardware, thus future titles highly probable.
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I had 2x 590s, there were times when I needed more power.

Where are they now?
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