Originally Posted by Juzam;12918727
I wasn't talking about you and since you've jumped right on the topic like a carp (it's a Turkish expression), you're on your way to becoming (if you're not already) a fanboy. Gratz.
Yeah nvidia messed up really bad. (1) What is your degree in electronics, sir? I really want to read your academic reports on semiconductors.
(2) I'm playing a whole variety of games and I've never seen the GPU clock go lower than stock. So that argument is unproven.
The card (3) is perfectly operational at stock voltages and speeds so it is not flawed. You on the other hand are, since no one except me has given any attention to you (guess what your flaw is). I can't see anyone defending themselves so I don't understand your point (if there is any). If by mentioning you mean: "LAWLS TEH CARD BURNZ GET ATI PWNZOR!1!!11" yes, they are blind zealots. If anyone says "TEH XBOXZ RRODS SUX GET PS3 NOW!1!1!!11" yes, he is a PS3 fanboy, oh or didn't you know?
I get that you need to justify YOUR purchase and try to prove that you're "The Uberskilled PC God" by attacking threads and don't feel like the underachieved ignorant you are, but please, get a life. (4) Everyone that has ran into the issue screwed up at some point. That's why I mentioned what they exactly did before and during the screw-up. You're just ridiculous.
(1) What's yours?
(2) Nvidia already confirmed that the drivers are NOT letting softwares detect when the card underclocks (look for your self if you don't believe)
(3) You said all "at stock voltages AND speeds
(4) Wait how is the name of this forum? We are at stockclock.com? Man open your eyes. The GTX590 is a great card for someone that will just "plug'n'play" for that "normal" user (stock cooling/clocks) it'll be much better than 6990 (IMHO) due to acustics, but there is no tweaking room. That's what all ATI fanboys are bragging, and believe it or not, that is TRUE. Why?
you will say. Well I'll not waste my time looking for sources, but so far the reality from what I've read is: The VRMs at 590's PCB are the GTX570 VRMs x2. People complain about the room for overclocking in the GTX570 these VRMs are great for a 570 at it's default speeds or for a 590 (1024 CUDA cores) at stock, but there is little room for tweaking. And if the card is SILENT and there is LITTLE room, or better little GAIN from OC why go water?
And look around you'll find many guys showing that even when it is stable at high clocks the results don't go up according (underclocking backfiring, stealth from user knowledge). And that is typical from Nvidia when they screw up. In the other hand, 6990 has a robust design for two chips that consumes less power, the OC results are scaling very well, and when the waterblocks came around we'll se their real potential (what scares me is the possible coil wine, that would be a no go for me). Nvidia has very good products, I can even defend 580SLI vs 6990 + 6970 (trifire for $1000) in some scenarios. The 580 still Nvidia's best call IMHO. I'll not even touch the point where people get in framebuffer walls with 580s or the 590. Call me whatever you want.
Edit: typosEdited by armartins - 3/29/11 at 12:31pm