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Hi Scorpion,

Thanks for the reply, will go into BIOS and edit that. My rig is in my profile in components, is it not displaying? My profile might not be visible yet, if it is all the pics of the rig are inthere along with a screenshot of all running performance monitors etc? Will the 8x pci slot downgrade performance compared to the 16x?

Is anyone else running a 90 degree case with vertical fans? Have you had cooling issues?

Raven RV02-EVO
i7 2600k
Win7 64 Ultimate
Asus Maximums IV Gene Z68
Asus GTX 590
Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 Deluxe
Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 1.35v
Antec 850w High Current Pro
Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro
Cyborg V7 RAT7 XFLY 5

Check my pics if poss.

I would not run the 590 in an 8x slot unless you have to. Reason being is its a dual GPU card so the extra bandwidth can make a difference. Other than that I can see your problem already. The Raven RV02 is NOT a good case for a card like the 590 (I used to have one). Those fans on the bottom force the hot air right back into the GPU, thats why your temps are high. Nothing you can do will really fix that, possibly find a small strip of plastic or something to secure onto the fan right below the end of the card to prevent it from blowing back into the exhaust? Maybe cardboard? Your temps aren't at a critical level but I suspect you might end up with overheating problems.
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I will stick my spare drive bay cover to the fan directly under the 590 and see if it makes a difference. I've got a drive bay triple 40mm fan thing coming and an expansion slot fan also, hopefully they'll lower the temps a bit but probably gonna sound like a flipping helicopter!!!

Any other ways of adding cooling to my system rather than replacing anything as all new? I don't mind losing the cheap slot fan or drive fans in place of something more tried and tested, nothing too hard to achieve and would like to avoid dismantling components!!!

Thanks for all your advice buddy.
post #2983 of 5154
Just checked out your "Black Box" that is a crazy PC, looks like a life support machine from the Starship Enterprise! How long does something like that take. It was nerve racking enough just building my PC let alone taking components apart.
Edited by MRHONGKONGDAVE - 11/13/11 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post

I would not run the 590 in an 8x slot unless you have to. Reason being is its a dual GPU card so the extra bandwidth can make a difference. Other than that I can see your problem already. The Raven RV02 is NOT a good case for a card like the 590 (I used to have one). Those fans on the bottom force the hot air right back into the GPU, thats why your temps are high. Nothing you can do will really fix that, possibly find a small strip of plastic or something to secure onto the fan right below the end of the card to prevent it from blowing back into the exhaust? Maybe cardboard? Your temps aren't at a critical level but I suspect you might end up with overheating problems.

No it doesn't.

Ontop of that the NF200 actually splits 16x total...So if he has 2 cards, they're 2 by 8x...So, it genuinely doesn't matter.

The difference between an 8x and a 16x is 3% on a dual GPU slot, it's 4% total difference.

A 4% performance loss vs. a better performance temp ~ The temp will and should always be a primary point vs a 3-5% performance loss.
Edited by Masked - 11/13/11 at 3:47pm
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I would not run the 590 in an 8x slot unless you have to. Reason being is its a dual GPU card so the extra bandwidth can make a difference. Other than that I can see your problem already. The Raven RV02 is NOT a good case for a card like the 590 (I used to have one). Those fans on the bottom force the hot air right back into the GPU, thats why your temps are high. Nothing you can do will really fix that, possibly find a small strip of plastic or something to secure onto the fan right below the end of the card to prevent it from blowing back into the exhaust? Maybe cardboard? Your temps aren't at a critical level but I suspect you might end up with overheating problems.

No it doesn't.

Ontop of that the NF200 actually splits 16x total...So if he has 2 cards, they're 2 by 8x...So, it genuinely doesn't matter.

The difference between an 8x and a 16x is 3% on a dual GPU slot, it's 4% total difference.

A 4% performance loss vs. a better performance temp ~ The temp will and should always be a primary point vs a 3-5% performance loss.

Either way, moving it won't help when theres an AP-181 blowing directly into it from 1/2 inch away. His problem isn't sufficient cooling, its that its configured wrong for the style of card he has. The case is great, the card is fine by itself, but combining the two is the problem. Thats why I suggested he block the air directly under the rear exhaust of the card so it cant vent properly. I'll bet he has a difference of at least 10*C between the cores the way it is now.
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on the x8 or x16 question: if there is any sence - my quad in x8/x8 performs same as on X58 with x16/x16 at least in 3dMark11 (even few points higher tongue.gif)
so there is barely no difference.

played Skyrim..alot. on ultra settings with vsync fps 90% of time is 60 but sometimes it drops to 50-54 for a second or two. also before adding some fixes in .ini file i had huge problems with water and vsync. now it runs fine except one thing - after 3-4 hours fire and other light effects start to leave some kind of trails. as for GPU usage: all 4 GPUs at 50-60% load.
i've noticed that BF3 on ultra (not cheat "ultra" w/o HBAO) runs great without any artifacts and constantly on 60 fps even on one GPU (sometimes i forget about turning SLi on after folding) but Skyrim seems to want more power if it fails to run at constant 60 fps
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Either way, moving it won't help when theres an AP-181 blowing directly into it from 1/2 inch away. His problem isn't sufficient cooling, its that its configured wrong for the style of card he has. The case is great, the card is fine by itself, but combining the two is the problem. Thats why I suggested he block the air directly under the rear exhaust of the card so it cant vent properly. I'll bet he has a difference of at least 10*C between the cores the way it is now.

Yes but, I'm addressing the misinformation.

The real world difference between the x16, x6, x4 slots is 4% on a dual GPU...On a single it's 3%...There is hardly ANY reason in the world to require that his card be in the x16 slot.

On the SB motherboards it's x16 TOTAL. So if he has 2 cards, the X16 becomes x8, x8.

So for example, I have a GTX 590, a GTX 580 and a Fatal1ty...So, in reality my actual lane usage is x16/3 or 5.3_ ~

I do agree that it's configured incorrectly...The card will just exhaust hot air back into the case and it's being repeatedly recycled rather than exhausting/intaking fresh air.

There is no "venting" properly and what you suggest will raise the heat exposure of the 2nd core.

The front/back blow-back on the 590 is because it runs fresh air over BOTH cores...By blocking 1, you're essentially overheating the other so, no...That's not smart either.

My suggestion would be to get more ventilation without blocking the exhaust because if you go to bench that card and it's blocked...You're performance will half-life.
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got a asus gtx 590 coming, just wondered? how easy is it to overclock, also I heard you can softmod these?
got it for a great price:)
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Hi Scorpion / Masked,

Thanks for the the info guys it's been really helpful.

The reason for swapping the 590 PCIE slot from 16 to 8 was so that when I put the drive bay fans and slot fan in, I could move the soundcard to the 16 slot and then the sound card wont be in the way allowing fresh cool air to hit the 590's intake fan directly, also the centre of the middle AP181 would then be directly underneath the card which would mean the heat would not be blasted straight back into the card due to the 50mm centre in the fan. The surrounding air flow in the case should shift the bottom vented heat as it is amazing in this case, if however it doesn't change much I could stick one of those spot fans to sweep across the bottom of the card.
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Got a question for you guys, lets say i got a gtx 590 installed and several games have problems with SLI set ups, could i just disable 1 gpu and use it like a single gtx 580?

sorry if its a stupid question



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