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Originally Posted by MKHunt View Post

Koolance and EK I can confirm without any doubt that they will fit ANY 590.
I actually have a Koolance for sale but not posted yet; BNIB since I RMAed my other one and couldn't wait. It does get better temps than my EK block but the difference is like 3-4C so I have a hard time caring lol.



Thanks MK! I was thinking about a Koolance but there are no backplates listed for their blocks.

Now, even though it has exposed copper, I'm leaning more towards a pair of XSPC blocks. According to their install instructions, http://www.xs-pc.com/manual/razorgtx590.pdf, I can use the stock backplate. In fact, it says the block is mounted with the screws going through the stock backplates. They also have the wide-spaced ports I like so much.

But, I'm not ordering these until I can find some confirmation that they'll fit my specific cards.

They certainly aren't as flashy as other brands but who would know it besides me? The backplate is visible in most of our cases, not the waterblock itself. And the EVGA Classified backplate is just as classy looking as any other.

I'll sure miss the LED lit green Nvidia symbol and the matching GeForce logo, but I'd miss it even more if my cards lives were shortened because I failed to cool them the best I possibly could. I also saw a really fake-looking spec and price sheet for the upcoming GTX690's, if there actually will be such a thing, of course, and it listed them as $1000.00 each! I'll be keeping these 590's as long as possible and watercooling them is the only way to go. If I'm still alive I may try a pair of GTX790's, but that's a long ways down the road, so I kinda doubt it.

I'm still hoping EVGA will start selling the waterblocks made for them by SwifTech. They're quite ugly but it doesn't matter. But, I think, (not the least bit sure), that EVGA quit making their HydroCopper GTX590's when Nvidia came out with their new pcb's. I've even heard a couple of rumors that EVGA may have made other changes to the stock 590 pcb's that nobody else did. If so, then I think that they'd also have made a different BIOS to allow higher voltages. But, mine still idle at 0.875V and top out at 0.938V, or whatever it actually is. I really wish that EVGA had put mount points for a volt-meter like MSI did with my GTX580 Lightning XE's. I can't find a pcb layout for these EVGA's and I'd really rather not go fumbling around with a multi-meter unless I know exactly where to place the probes. There should be somebody here at OCN that knows how to do this.

Thanks again.

 

 

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post #3592 of 5154
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Originally Posted by kzinti1 View Post

I'm still hoping EVGA will start selling the waterblocks made for them by SwifTech. They're quite ugly but it doesn't matter. But, I think, (not the least bit sure), that EVGA quit making their HydroCopper GTX590's when Nvidia came out with their new pcb's. I've even heard a couple of rumors that EVGA may have made other changes to the stock 590 pcb's that nobody else did. If so, then I think that they'd also have made a different BIOS to allow higher voltages. But, mine still idle at 0.875V and top out at 0.938V, or whatever it actually is. I really wish that EVGA had put mount points for a volt-meter like MSI did with my GTX580 Lightning XE's. I can't find a pcb layout for these EVGA's and I'd really rather not go fumbling around with a multi-meter unless I know exactly where to place the probes. There should be somebody here at OCN that knows how to do this.
Thanks again.


That won't be happening.

The 590 HC's were a limited one run only with Swiftech and they already started CNCing the next release so, no more 590 blocks will be released to the public beyond what's actually on the cards.

The 580 was different because that wasn't a limited card release and to cover the 1.5 // 3gb cards, all they had to do was shorted 2/3 protruding contact points -- Bam, done.

So, unfortunately, this will not be a reality.

The rumors surrounding this card are incorrect. The PCB has never changed, not a once.

The contact points ON the PCB have changed as have some components on the PCB but, the PCB was never changed.

As for the voltage issues, the only issue currently withstanding is the Bios/Driver lock on behalf of Nvidia and it HAS FLUCTUATED over several releases. ~ Whomever said this, you're absolutely correct.

Nvidia is using driver releases almost as tests to see what's guaranteed safe for the public and this is far from the first time they've done this, no surprise.

I have multi-metered our cards which is what my blurb was about on the previous page.

Your card has no physical blockade UNTIL 1.05v which is the point at which your doppler connector FAILS and actually rebounds the voltage BACK to the VRM's which blows the closest VRM to the 2ndary caps.

1.0v is absolutely safe and as I've said many times...2 Weeks after release, MANY of us had these at 0.95v @ 850mhz or better.
post #3593 of 5154
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Originally Posted by Dennybrig View Post

Hey crackhead guy congrats on your waterblocks! Dont forget to post pictures and also could you tell me what will your watercooling setup be? I mean the equipment you will use to water cool them...
Please let me know!

I have a koolance block, 35x pump, 180mm rad, 2 x 180mm phobya fans, xspc single bay res, compression fittings. And i might be putting in a koollance inline drain port...but it would look soo ugly...I might leave it out.

I coulddent mod my case to fit another rad for the other 590, so I am converting the other one back to air and putting it in my brothers computer untill the games stop playing maxed out on a single 590. Then I will need to upgrade to a new case, prob a silverstone raven (still uses the 180mm fans).

I will post pics when I get everything finished, I still need to flush my rad before I can add coolant.
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Originally Posted by Masked View Post

That won't be happening.
The 590 HC's were a limited one run only with Swiftech and they already started CNCing the next release so, no more 590 blocks will be released to the public beyond what's actually on the cards.
The 580 was different because that wasn't a limited card release and to cover the 1.5 // 3gb cards, all they had to do was shorted 2/3 protruding contact points -- Bam, done.
So, unfortunately, this will not be a reality.
The rumors surrounding this card are incorrect. The PCB has never changed, not a once.
The contact points ON the PCB have changed as have some components on the PCB but, the PCB was never changed.
As for the voltage issues, the only issue currently withstanding is the Bios/Driver lock on behalf of Nvidia and it HAS FLUCTUATED over several releases. ~ Whomever said this, you're absolutely correct.
Nvidia is using driver releases almost as tests to see what's guaranteed safe for the public and this is far from the first time they've done this, no surprise.
I have multi-metered our cards which is what my blurb was about on the previous page.
Your card has no physical blockade UNTIL 1.05v which is the point at which your doppler connector FAILS and actually rebounds the voltage BACK to the VRM's which blows the closest VRM to the 2ndary caps.
1.0v is absolutely safe and as I've said many times...2 Weeks after release, MANY of us had these at 0.95v @ 850mhz or better.

Isnt the max possible voltage on current drivers like 0,96V - 0,97V?
So 850mhz would still be possible ?
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On a more serious note. My 590 is in my TJ08-E. I dont have the room for my pump to be underneith my 590 (due to harddrives and my H80 for my processor), would it be bad if I mounted my pump ontop of the 590block? I could mount it up against my PSU but I would rather not.

Thanks for the input.
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Isnt the max possible voltage on current drivers like 0,96V - 0,97V?
So 850mhz would still be possible ?

No, if you haven't modified your bios max voltage is lifetime set under 0.94v ~

I believe it's 0.936
post #3597 of 5154
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Originally Posted by kzinti1 View Post




Thanks MK! I was thinking about a Koolance but there are no backplates listed for their blocks.
Now, even though it has exposed copper, I'm leaning more towards a pair of XSPC blocks. According to their install instructions, http://www.xs-pc.com/manual/razorgtx590.pdf, I can use the stock backplate. In fact, it says the block is mounted with the screws going through the stock backplates. They also have the wide-spaced ports I like so much.
But, I'm not ordering these until I can find some confirmation that they'll fit my specific cards.
They certainly aren't as flashy as other brands but who would know it besides me? The backplate is visible in most of our cases, not the waterblock itself. And the EVGA Classified backplate is just as classy looking as any other.



the Koolance blocks work with the stock backplate. As far as I know, only EK blocks don't work with the stock backplate,

Also, memory OCs werent doing anything with my PPD so I dropped my mem to stock and I'm eeking out what I can in moar core.
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Isnt the max possible voltage on current drivers like 0,96V - 0,97V?
So 850mhz would still be possible ?

My stable clocks are 705@0.963 and 730@0.975 and I would say these are on the lower end of average. 850@0.95 sound a little far fetched to me. Maybe for surfing the net, but completeing a 3DMark11 run or playing a GPU intensive game like BF3, I doubt it.

This is on the earlier cards, the later ones seem to be more capable.
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My stable clocks are 705@0.963 and 730@0.975 and I would say these are on the lower end of average. 850@0.95 sound a little far fetched to me. Maybe for surfing the net, but completeing a 3DMark11 run or playing a GPU intensive game like BF3, I doubt it.
This is on the earlier cards, the later ones seem to be more capable.

I then challenge you to read the first 20 pages of this thread.

850mhz was achieved easily pre-voltage lock on anywhere from .955v to 1.00v ~

There are no earlier cards...Revision 1 was a VERY limited run, then they hopped to revision 2.

I'd argue that everyone in the market has had a Rev 2.0 since release only, they didn't know it.

So, 850mhz is easily achieved but, you actually have to unlock the card to get it there.

Your issue is that your cards are DRIVER LOCKED...In fact, for everyone in here (because none of you have written your own drivers) we're all driver locked.

Once that dampener is removed, I'd almost bet you my left nut your card could do 850mhz pre-1.0v.
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I then challenge you to read the first 20 pages of this thread.
850mhz was achieved easily pre-voltage lock on anywhere from .955v to 1.00v ~
There are no earlier cards...Revision 1 was a VERY limited run, then they hopped to revision 2.
I'd argue that everyone in the market has had a Rev 2.0 since release only, they didn't know it.
So, 850mhz is easily achieved but, you actually have to unlock the card to get it there.
Your issue is that your cards are DRIVER LOCKED...In fact, for everyone in here (because none of you have written your own drivers) we're all driver locked.
Once that dampener is removed, I'd almost bet you my left nut your card could do 850mhz pre-1.0v.

Don't worry I've pretty much read this entire thread and the overclocking/flashing thread, don't tell my boss because most was done while at work smile.gif

I was actually responding to the bold text below.
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Isnt the max possible voltage on current drivers like 0,96V - 0,97V?
So 850mhz would still be possible ?

With up to date drivers which 99% of us have access to and need to run due to game optimizations, I don't think 850mhz is realistically achievable.
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