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post #3821 of 5154
What is the consensus from everyone on using LED televisions for computer usage? Before I even started up my build, I've been longing to use a high-end 3D LED Samsung television to give sight to the content on the gaming rig I was planning on building. Now that I'm half way done, I would imagine that with a 590 strapped to my rig, my viewing senses would be in sensory overload... So far I haven't committed to any television/monitor just yet, but I want to be sure that I'm not short changing myself with another bad decision when I actually do get around to buying the visual portion of my build... To be exact, I was thinking of the Samsung UE55D8000 model. It has a thin boarder - perfect for near seamless dual monitoring... Anyone care to answer?
Edited by ProfeZZor X - 3/1/12 at 4:48pm
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post #3822 of 5154
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What is the consensus from everyone on using LED televisions for computer usage? Before I even started up my build, I've been longing to use a high-end 3D LED Samsung television to give sight to the content on my gaming rig. I would imagine that with a 590 strapped to my rig, my viewing senses would be in sensory overload... Anyone care to answer?

I have a 3D Samsung LED tv

Samsung 8 series. I love this TV to death and it really gives good picture overall, i still prefer gaming on a monitor.

590 + Led samsung is a great setup though.

However if you will game in 3D, you will be stuck with 3Dtvplay or DDD. Cant use 3Dvision.

i love gaming in 3d, but i stay away gaming 3D on a TV. 120hz 3Dvision monitors are best for 3Dgaming.

For me Pros of gaming on Samsung Led TV are

+ Huge screen
+ Beautiful colors
+ Can have sound from the TV

CONS

- Not as comfortable as gaming on a desk in front of a monitor
- cant get focused much
- cant do 120hz gaming which is a huge let down
- input lag is a bit more than a very solid 120 hz monitor

Edit : Dont forget to change your input in a Samsung Led tv to PC.
post #3823 of 5154
A bit late for me to join the party, but I own a rig with quad sli 590, and both are watercooled.
I understand that nVidia completely blocked voltage tweaking months back, are there any solutions to bypass this as of now, other than using a previous driver?
I was able to OC the cards to about 800mhz with voltage tweaking, but now I cannot even get the cards to perform 30mhz higher without it frown.gif
Edited by BiN4RY - 3/1/12 at 5:02pm
post #3824 of 5154
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A bit late for me to join the party, but I own a rig with quad sli 590, and both are watercooled.
I understand that nVidia completely blocked voltage tuning months back, are there any solutions to bypass this as of now?

Wow bro you have 2 590s and you are still overclocking your rig? biggrin.gif

If i had 2 590s i would probably downlock them to make sure they last longer oinksmiley.png
post #3825 of 5154
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Wow bro you have 2 590s and you are still overclocking your rig? biggrin.gif
If i had 2 590s i would probably downlock them to make sure they last longer oinksmiley.png

Why not, I would like to get the most out of them smile.gif
post #3826 of 5154
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Why not, I would like to get the most out of them smile.gif

True true biggrin.gif

If only i could understand about water cooling, i would probably add it to my system and overclock a bit.

I am not feelign safe OCing the 590 with the stock cooler.
post #3827 of 5154
Hey what kinda performance do you guys get in Serious Sam 3 maxed out with your gtx590's?

Im usually getting 60fps all the time but it will sometimes dip down to about 50fps with heavy action.




2600k 4.5ghz
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post #3828 of 5154

I was reading an old (Dec. 29, '11) (p)review of the new i7-3820, http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276/intel-core-i7-3820-review-285-quadcore-sandy-bridge-e/1, (now available without having to buy a combo BTW), by Mr. AnandTech himself, Anand Lal Shimpi, when I ran across the following quote from the Comments section of this article by chizow:

 

"RE: 16 vs 40 pcie lanes by chizow on Thursday, December 29, 2011

There's not much benefit when using 2xPCIE 2.0 single-GPU cards with PCIE 2.0 x8 slots. They just don't need that much bandwidth.

With multi-GPU cards however, that PCIE 2.0 x8 starts to choke them a bit and x16 starts showing its benefits.

Another thing to keep in mind too is that with X79 (and IB?) they support PCIE 3.0, so with PCIE 3.0 cards, PCIE 3.0 x8 is the equivalent of PCIE 2.0 x16 in terms of bandwidth. Should be beneficial for multi-card solutions especially with multi-GPU cards."

 

Is it true that we GTX590 owners and other multi-gpu cards are actually being limited by the x8 PCI-E lanes using P67 and Z68 motherboards?

If so, would it be a worthwhile investment in an i7-3820 or other Sandy Bridge E cpu and motherboard to keep our multi-gpu cards a little more future-proof?

Or, am I reading a little too much into this, it's too close to IvyBridge (which has been delayed once again to, I believe, July, 2012) or is this all just a load of crap?

Even at this seemingly late date with regards to IvyBridge, this is still quite a doable project at a fairly low cost.

The Egg is selling these 3820's for $319.99 with none of their "Combo Required for Purchase" nonsense. There are some quite good LGA 2011 motherboards at a fairly reasonable price, there are now adaptors for watercooling blocks so that would save some more money, and some quite good prices on XMP supported Quad memory modules.

What I'm trying to do is just skip Fermi altogether and wait for the generation after that to update my videocards. They're both still too new to be outdated before Gen.3 PCI-E is made available in another year or two, or whenever. PCI-E 3.0 ain't a done deal until the units are available for sale. Nothing but vaporware until then.

I'm really not looking for an excuse for a new build. I don't need any excuse. If/when I decide on a new build then it's already halfway done. Or more. All I need for a completely new build is a cpu, mobo and memory. I always keep a new build in this half-completed state for just such things as this. It's already built for IvyBridge and everything has been tested with another cpu, mobo and memory. Ready to fire up within hours of the arrival of the 3 major components.

All I'm looking for is some comments as to whether this is a good idea or not.

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I was reading an old (Dec. 29, '11) (p)review of the new i7-3820, http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276/intel-core-i7-3820-review-285-quadcore-sandy-bridge-e/1, (now available without having to buy a combo BTW), by Mr. AnandTech himself, Anand Lal Shimpi, when I ran across the following quote from the Comments section of this article by chizow:

"RE: 16 vs 40 pcie lanes by chizow on Thursday, December 29, 2011
There's not much benefit when using 2xPCIE 2.0 single-GPU cards with PCIE 2.0 x8 slots. They just don't need that much bandwidth.
With multi-GPU cards however, that PCIE 2.0 x8 starts to choke them a bit and x16 starts showing its benefits.
Another thing to keep in mind too is that with X79 (and IB?) they support PCIE 3.0, so with PCIE 3.0 cards, PCIE 3.0 x8 is the equivalent of PCIE 2.0 x16 in terms of bandwidth. Should be beneficial for multi-card solutions especially with multi-GPU cards."

Is it true that we GTX590 owners and other multi-gpu cards are actually being limited by the x8 PCI-E lanes using P67 and Z68 motherboards?
If so, would it be a worthwhile investment in an i7-3820 or other Sandy Bridge E cpu and motherboard to keep our multi-gpu cards a little more future-proof?
Or, am I reading a little too much into this, it's too close to IvyBridge (which has been delayed once again to, I believe, July, 2012) or is this all just a load of crap?
Even at this seemingly late date with regards to IvyBridge, this is still quite a doable project at a fairly low cost.
The Egg is selling these 3820's for $319.99 with none of their "Combo Required for Purchase" nonsense. There are some quite good LGA 2011 motherboards at a fairly reasonable price, there are now adaptors for watercooling blocks so that would save some more money, and some quite good prices on XMP supported Quad memory modules.
What I'm trying to do is just skip Fermi altogether and wait for the generation after that to update my videocards. They're both still too new to be outdated before Gen.3 PCI-E is made available in another year or two, or whenever. PCI-E 3.0 ain't a done deal until the units are available for sale. Nothing but vaporware until then.
I'm really not looking for an excuse for a new build. I don't need any excuse. If/when I decide on a new build then it's already halfway done. Or more. All I need for a completely new build is a cpu, mobo and memory. I always keep a new build in this half-completed state for just such things as this. It's already built for IvyBridge and everything has been tested with another cpu, mobo and memory. Ready to fire up within hours of the arrival of the 3 major components.
All I'm looking for is some comments as to whether this is a good idea or not.

According to Masked, you're only losing about %3-%4 of bandwith on your card with the x8 lanes. Essentially a negligible amount. Negligible enough that it didn't stop him from putting a 2700k into his personal rig I believe back when he was running two 590's with that CPU.

That being said, I read the same review and have had one eye on EVGA's Z68, but I don't want to spend the money for an unlocked Sandy Bridge-e and I don't know how much of a gain that locked version of the CPU for $385 would net over my Bloomfield running @ 4.0ghz. Though I have been considering getting that and then replacing it with an Ivy Bridge chip as I do believe the Z68 will be compatible with them, but I'm still not sure. Plus, the PS Vita keeps calling my name, so I'm not sure if that may come first and I hold out until Ivy Bridge. July is not that far away. It'll creep up on us all before we know it.

However, I think my X58 mobo may be dying or dead before Ivy Bridge comes out, so I'm in a bit of a quandary and am still considering this Z68 option. But in your case, I don't think it sounds like you're missing much.
Edited by Shinobi Jedi - 3/2/12 at 3:13am
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post #3830 of 5154
I am glad that i have only 1 590 GPU and it is in my 16x PCI slot biggrin.gif

But yeah i heard somewhere that the difference was about 5% as well.

Difference between 4x and 16x was about 10% i believe.
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