Since I'm getting like 2-3 PM's/Day about this -- I'm going to answer as much as I can.
I'm not getting the 690 because I feel, burned...For me, this is personal...And it's mostly personal because of things I can't really mention here but, the 590 wasn't what was promised...To anyone.
For ME, from a business standpoint and from a vendor standpoint the 590 was an incredible success...Stock sold out, the cores were indeed cherry picked and every component on the card was top dollar...I mean, as a former vendor, limited editions are always the prized pony and the 590 made vendors LOTS and LOTS of money, especially considering cost...Incredible success.
From an enthusiast standpoint, they didn't deliver what they promised. There's no well; they sort of did for me...We were all "burned" in one way or another by this card...Also, there was no mention, anywhere of the updates for the 680 WHQL drivers, no foresight, no maybe bla bla bla, nothing...There was no communication that anything was changing...And I'm actually higher on the totem pole than I was before...Not even a whisper.
That's great for you guys, it really is...Many of the things we've "QQ'd" about all year finally happen...It's awesome, actually...But, read my previous posts...Every single thing they've said says they support this card 100%, it's the best thing since sliced bread but, we're really the ginger step child...Let's be real about that.
That being said, I'm still not dismissing the 690, I'm going to stock the card, it won't be as limited (not to the extent the 590 was) and I'm going to offer it to customers...But, as a personal user, I'm on the fence...Do I spend 1200$ to watercool the card and pray all year like I did with the 590? Do I spend 3 weeks trying to write my own drivers in the hopes the card will be what it can be, again?
I had the highest overclock on water...1.01v, 850mhz ~ I remember it like it was yesterday...That to me, is what I'll remember when I think about this card because prior to the OCP and driver lock-downs, that was it's moment of glory.
You release a card, stand by it stubbornly as the community points out it's flaws...They make custom drivers to bypass these flaws...They actually still support the card...And you wait a fiscal year (11.2 months) to implement everything without a word...While it took the custom driver folks, a week to write the driver and release it on Guru...That just burns me, incredibly.
As a single slot solution, you still can't be the dual PCB cards...
In terms of the 680 = 590, with driver updates, it will happen...I can OC 1 680 about 10% past my 590 in terms of overall performance...Realistically right now, they're the same price, as well.
Let's be honest, though ~ This year, especially if you're a gamer -- There's nothing REAL and groundbreaking coming until Sept/Oct/Nov. ~ GW2 is an amazing game...D3 is an amazing game but, they're all based on the DX9 ported over to a DX11 engine...Meaning, they're just not that taxing...So with your single 590, you're still in the game, performance is still there, you're missing NOTHING by not upgrading this round.
I don't want to hold any of you back from upgrading...The 690 will be a good card...I personally, just don't have faith, as a user, that they're going to follow through...Maybe I'll do the 790, eventually but, for now, tri-sli 680's is my happy place.
Edited by Masked - 5/1/12 at 6:11am
I'm not getting the 690 because I feel, burned...For me, this is personal...And it's mostly personal because of things I can't really mention here but, the 590 wasn't what was promised...To anyone.
For ME, from a business standpoint and from a vendor standpoint the 590 was an incredible success...Stock sold out, the cores were indeed cherry picked and every component on the card was top dollar...I mean, as a former vendor, limited editions are always the prized pony and the 590 made vendors LOTS and LOTS of money, especially considering cost...Incredible success.
From an enthusiast standpoint, they didn't deliver what they promised. There's no well; they sort of did for me...We were all "burned" in one way or another by this card...Also, there was no mention, anywhere of the updates for the 680 WHQL drivers, no foresight, no maybe bla bla bla, nothing...There was no communication that anything was changing...And I'm actually higher on the totem pole than I was before...Not even a whisper.
That's great for you guys, it really is...Many of the things we've "QQ'd" about all year finally happen...It's awesome, actually...But, read my previous posts...Every single thing they've said says they support this card 100%, it's the best thing since sliced bread but, we're really the ginger step child...Let's be real about that.
That being said, I'm still not dismissing the 690, I'm going to stock the card, it won't be as limited (not to the extent the 590 was) and I'm going to offer it to customers...But, as a personal user, I'm on the fence...Do I spend 1200$ to watercool the card and pray all year like I did with the 590? Do I spend 3 weeks trying to write my own drivers in the hopes the card will be what it can be, again?
I had the highest overclock on water...1.01v, 850mhz ~ I remember it like it was yesterday...That to me, is what I'll remember when I think about this card because prior to the OCP and driver lock-downs, that was it's moment of glory.
You release a card, stand by it stubbornly as the community points out it's flaws...They make custom drivers to bypass these flaws...They actually still support the card...And you wait a fiscal year (11.2 months) to implement everything without a word...While it took the custom driver folks, a week to write the driver and release it on Guru...That just burns me, incredibly.
As a single slot solution, you still can't be the dual PCB cards...
In terms of the 680 = 590, with driver updates, it will happen...I can OC 1 680 about 10% past my 590 in terms of overall performance...Realistically right now, they're the same price, as well.
Let's be honest, though ~ This year, especially if you're a gamer -- There's nothing REAL and groundbreaking coming until Sept/Oct/Nov. ~ GW2 is an amazing game...D3 is an amazing game but, they're all based on the DX9 ported over to a DX11 engine...Meaning, they're just not that taxing...So with your single 590, you're still in the game, performance is still there, you're missing NOTHING by not upgrading this round.
I don't want to hold any of you back from upgrading...The 690 will be a good card...I personally, just don't have faith, as a user, that they're going to follow through...Maybe I'll do the 790, eventually but, for now, tri-sli 680's is my happy place.
Edited by Masked - 5/1/12 at 6:11am
Return of the Sith
(15 items) |
|
Return of the Sith
(15 items) |
