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Good god man..that is amazing.
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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Call EVGA Sales, I got off the phone with them today. *hint hint*

Both my replacement cards are on their way back and actually spoke to Jacob's boss. It felt pretty cool.
EVGA is legit people.

Back in the day we used to have EVGA exclusive contracts (Back when things were really custom) and when I first started working here in 2005, they disolved most of those contracts (Was the start of Dell)...It's unfortunate because every call I had to make to them was rediculously easy, pain free and I actually enjoyed it!

Now I get a new guy, just as legit but, I miss those days of RMA'ing rediculously crazy inventory because of a bad capacitor or something; serious $$$$..

And Mr. Rush, I'd pick up a wonderful program named Rivatuner, Aida or something similar...Monitor your real time fan speeds not your "reported" fan speeds...It sounds like you sir are having a heat issue.

If you monitor them and the problem does indeed persist, I'd contact your vendor for RMA.
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Okay so question..... was playing some l4d2 earlier and it BSOD on me..... I had reverted everything in my system to stock, stock cpu, stock gpu, stock mobo, stock ram......

I didn't even have a custom fan profile for the 590 going and it BSOD'ed after ~1 hour of L4D2..... now I don't know what would the cause be, but I am guessing heat.

I tried to start up immediately and got screens looking like the following (frozen at this point):



See the pixels of color across the top..... now what is peoples opinion on this?

After 20-30 min of waiting with the power off / cord pulled out, it booted up fine and I checked all the temps, and they are all < 40 C...... I don't know what is going on.
That seems like sort of artifacting m8

I had wierd dots like that on my first xfx 5870 to, i would rma it if you cant solve it.
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Okay so question..... was playing some l4d2 earlier and it BSOD on me..... I had reverted everything in my system to stock, stock cpu, stock gpu, stock mobo, stock ram......

I didn't even have a custom fan profile for the 590 going and it BSOD'ed after ~1 hour of L4D2..... now I don't know what would the cause be, but I am guessing heat.

I tried to start up immediately and got screens looking like the following (frozen at this point):



See the pixels of color across the top..... now what is peoples opinion on this?

After 20-30 min of waiting with the power off / cord pulled out, it booted up fine and I checked all the temps, and they are all < 40 C...... I don't know what is going on.
did it blue screen with a "dumping physical memory" issue?
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GTX590 Quad SLI Reviews

☆3DMARK VANTAGE / CPU 4.8GHz
Clock(MHz)FSB:4818.7MHz 209.5×23
Vcore(V):1.488v(CPUZ)
QPI voltage:1.47v
Memory voltage:1.65v
DRAM Frequency:1047.5MHz
DRAM Timing:8-8-8-20-1T
VGA clock/mem/shader:750/1900/1500
scre:65280

Crysis Benchmark Results Thread ↓
http://www.overclock.net/benchmarkin...ts-thread.html

☆Crysis DX10 Results : 2560x1600, 8xAA , Very High
Clock(MHz)FSB:4009.9MHz 211.0×19
Vcore(V):1.191v(CPUZ)
QPI voltage:1.445v
Memory voltage:1.64v
DRAM Frequency:1055.1MHz
DRAM Timing:8-8-8-20-1T
VGA clock/mem/shader:750/1900/1500

Avg. FPS :72.815



☆Crysis DX9 Results : 1280x1024, No AA, High.
Clock(MHz)FSB:5011.8MHz 200.5×25
Vcore(V):1.521v(CPUZ)
QPI voltage:1.475v
Memory voltage:1.64v
DRAM Frequency:1002.4MHz
DRAM Timing:8-8-8-20-1T
VGA clock/mem/shader:750/1900/1500

Avg. FPS :127.16
Good job doing benchies Wiz, but why is your QPI so freaking high for a 990x?

Look at your GPU usage under the Crysis benchmark, its looks to be about 65~70% as well. I anticipate you might have an unstable overclock, probably CPU territory.

On the Crysis 4GHz run, you look to be undervolted quite a bit, have you run stability testing? If you are getting core errors, its going to greatly reduce you score. Over voltage on the QPI can increase likelihood of this as well.

You maybe able to increase your scores greatly without increasing your speed, just adjusting the voltages.

I personally run (for 24/7) 4.100 GHz @ 1.270v (full load), so about 1.31875v in BIOS with VDroop on. My QPI is only +75mV, so its stock of 1.200v + 75 = 1.275v, with a 30 mV LLC, making it 1.305~1.310 at full load. You are entitled to run things however you want, but the Gulftowns are more sensitive from voltages when it comes to error, too high or too low can cause errors. Those voltages are as low as I can get without getting either a Core failure / BSOD. IBT 100 passes Max Memory and Prime95 Custom Blend with 21000 MB of RAM stable for 16 hours straight.

The max safe vCore & QPI voltages I have read is approximately 1.40v. However, most enthusiasts agree going over 1.400v on QPI causes errors, and does not aid overclock. Now on the vCore, error town (without sub-zero) begins appearing around 1.59~1.60v, thus making your max OC limited to vCore.

Also what are your Uncore/Northbridge & QPI frequencies? Having a stock Uncore can hold back your benchmarking. QPI should be set to around 3.5 GHz and if you don't have direct control over that, have to adjust Bclk and lower CPU multiplier. Its more complicated I know but worth it. If you scroll down the EVGA's hall of fame, you can see I am in 4th place on 3DMark11 for 2x GPUs, but its primarily due to a boost from my Combo score at the end, nearly a 1000 higher, just from raising my Uncore to a stable 3.6 GHz as well. It increases system intercommunication greatly. In addition to that, I have added a small boost to my IOH Core voltage, which has been shown to increase the performance of multiple card / multi GPU setups. I run that at approximately from 1.100v to 1.225v, not sure what the live voltages are but I assume it doesn't go much higher or lower. 0.060v for every GPU

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Okay so question..... was playing some l4d2 earlier and it BSOD on me..... I had reverted everything in my system to stock, stock cpu, stock gpu, stock mobo, stock ram......

I didn't even have a custom fan profile for the 590 going and it BSOD'ed after ~1 hour of L4D2..... now I don't know what would the cause be, but I am guessing heat.

I tried to start up immediately and got screens looking like the following (frozen at this point):

See the pixels of color across the top..... now what is peoples opinion on this?

After 20-30 min of waiting with the power off / cord pulled out, it booted up fine and I checked all the temps, and they are all < 40 C...... I don't know what is going on.
Where it freezes (not just how) can be many things, and where you freeze really opens up a ton of things. It could be because of unstable clocks (which you said are running stock), GPU Heat, GPU Drivers, System files corrupting.

Every BSOD has the chance to break Windows, we are just living in an age where there is tons of redundancy and repairability. I doubt the card has damage, due to the Windows loading logo has to produce virtually no load on the GPU, thus I would say its a software based artifacting as opposed to physical problems, UNLESS, you continue to have issues in games.

That length of time you reported would definitely have me concern because an hour in game should already be at its maximum temp for whatever game that is, 70c, 80c, 85c, 90c <-entering the unsafe zone there, etc. So try it again using on SCREEN temp monitor such as Afterburners OSD which can monitor everything (it can be somewhat annoying to really be playing but just keep an eye on temps while playing for an hour.) If the same thing occurs and its 85c and below on each GPU, I would anticipate either driver OR another piece of hardware such as RAM. At which point you might want to post more data for us to diagnose better like the memory dump/stopcode etc.

Your best bet is to see what caused it (I suspect drivers) and then just re-install them to see if it helps. Could just be a driver bug with L4D, nVidia can have them, RARE I know

To find out some info on the Crash (for anybody who wants to know)
Start -> Control Panel -> Administrator Tools -> Computer Management -> Event Viewer

Display all sub-options after selecting Event Viewer, then go Windows Logs, and expand it.

There are two spots I check, Applications and then Systems. Looking primarily for a red circle with a ! (exclamation point) in it. This will give you basic info (without having to tear through a memorydump if you did infact get one.)

Once you find it you open it up into its own window or just click it on it and see the summary below the list of what kind of error. You can even post in here if you are unsure, it has a .XML format which is easy to follow if you are familiar with XML.

Look for values or .dll or .dvkm that start with nV <nVidia (or ATI which I don't know why you would be here lol.) nvkdlm.dll is a big one. Also DX errors can appear under System OR Applications. They can be sneaky, and in Applications, you may only get the game executable, which I have seen this being still related to drivers, but its less definitive as it may be a game bug.


Edited by RagingCain - 4/13/11 at 9:15am
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Hey guys

Any idea if the EK backplate for the 590 would fit the card if it doesn't have a waterblock installed? I'm looking at the installation manual and they don't mention if it fits without a WB. Any ideas?

Heres the manual

My asus card has the reference backplates that I don't like so much, so I'm looking for alternatives.

Thanks
 
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Hey guys

Any idea if the EK backplate for the 590 would fit the card if it doesn't have a waterblock installed? I'm looking at the installation manual and they don't mention if it fits without a WB. Any ideas?

Heres the manual

My asus card has the reference backplates that I don't like so much, so I'm looking for alternatives.

Thanks
They fit the 480's...I imagine they'll fit the 590's.

They're connected to the card VIA the 4 corners...
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They fit the 480's...I imagine they'll fit the 590's.

They're connected to the card VIA the 4 corners...
hmm thanks for that, I guess I could shoot them an e-mail before ordering one...
 
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just post a pic or a screenie when they arrive and you'll get your place next to juggalo's quad SLI

I'm supposed to get my card today, it's 7am here, have to go to school first. Let's hope the post office doesn't fail or something.
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hmm thanks for that, I guess I could shoot them an e-mail before ordering one...
i would shoot them an email but it should fit without the need for a waterblock. no reason why it shouldn't.
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