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I'm letting it fester over the weekend. I'll see if i can find a safe way to send them. they could still infect from a zip, but maybe if it had a password or if it were in a passworded rar...
As far as the rogue AVs are concerned (Security Tool, etc...) if you zip just the executable (C:\\Users\\<user>\\AppData\\Local (or locallow depending)) then it won't actually do anything to the system until it's pulled out of the zip and run by itself. The .exe will then create everything it needs on the host system to be self-sustained without user interaction - but again, if you zip just the executable then it is unable to do anything autonomously.
    
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As far as the rogue AVs are concerned (Security Tool, etc...) if you zip just the executable (C:\\Users\\<user>\\AppData\\Local (or locallow depending)) then it won't actually do anything to the system until it's pulled out of the zip and run by itself. The .exe will then create everything it needs on the host system to be self-sustained without user interaction - but again, if you zip just the executable then it is unable to do anything autonomously.
Or rename to .werawerwarwser23424243243v
btw Pm please wen done
I`l give u my email.
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Not planning to test Trend Micro?
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Or rename to .werawerwarwser23424243243v
btw Pm please wen done
I`l give u my email.
I'll figure it out and pm you.
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Not planning to test Trend Micro?
I will if you want me to. that and CA antivirus.
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I wouldn't mind seeing how Sunbelt's Vipre fared in the mix. I've been pleased with it thus far and it seems to score well in comparisons I've come across.

edit: ooh, and maybe Sophos. The institution I work for uses it on thousands of comps, and provides it to me for free but I've never tried it. Probably kinda late to start adding to your test. Looking forward to the results of your current candidates. edit: nvm, just tried sophos and it's a hog.
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after doing some testing I'm going to change how i rate them. Different programs tell you about the infections they cleaned differently, so instead of rating them on how many files/registry entries, they find, I'm rating them on how many infected items malware bytes finds after it's done cleaning, and how many i can find in a hijackthis log.

after microsoft security essentials was done cleaning there were still bits of the virus left over. the background was still messed up, there were still links to infected files on the desktop, and in the start menu.
I scanned with MBAM, and it found 18 additional infected items. After that, I ran hijackthis, and the log was clean.
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Most Anti-Viruses are going to pick up any unencrypted or old/crappy encrypted files.
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If it's not too late, could you please add Rising AntiVirus to the list? www.freerav.com

I've used it for a couple of years, and it seems like the recent version is really lacking in both its active monitoring and scanning engines.

I look forward to your results with this.

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ok... so my image got corrupted, and I'm going to have to start over again... This time i'm just going to do this in a virtual machine, and make a copy of the virtual disk.
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I put the same virus files on the virtual machine, but got a different result, so new results for microsoft security essentials...
after mse cleaned everything up malware bytes found 4 additional infected items, and a hijackthis log contained 3 infections.

Then i tested McAfee: After it scanned and cleaned MBAM found 14 additional infections, then i found one more in the hijackthis log.

Then I tested Norton, and the virus disabled it right off the bat. as soon as it detected norton on the system, it put in a registry entry which made it ask you what program you want to use to open exe files. Also somehow it disabled the on access scanner, live update, etc so when you clicked on the taskbar icon no menu popped up, and the UI didn't open. I replicated the same problem multiple times with norton, but not with the one's i had tested before it. I had to use the norton power eraser to remove part of the virus, then remove the rest with the regular UI. Interestingly enough once I did that, norton only left behind one infected file for MBAM, and 2 infected entries in the hijackthis log. That's the best so far.

I also tested Avast, which has a great UI, and is snappy. unfortunately it had the same problem as norton where it made the exe registry entry. It ran when you selected run as administrator, but left 10 infected files for malware bytes, and 1 hijackthis entry. it also didn't remove the exe registry entry, while Norton did, and didn't change the common proxy entry that keeps you from getting to the internet by telling it to use the loopback address as a proxy server.
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