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Hello everyone, I'm new here and I have for along time often read your forums and found much useful information so I have finally registered and hopefully i can get some help here. I just recently upgraded from a p5q pro and core2quad system to the RIIIF and i7 950. This is my 1st time ever with a non 775 system and boy do i feel like a newb.. 1366 is a whole new world and the RIIIF bios is like looking at a foreign language to me. Basically id like to just get things set properly to run at stock clock speeds 1st then future oc. It seems like every time i start taking things off auto in the bios i start having trouble. sometimes ram will read as 8gb instead of 12gb and im not sure why.
Any helpful info just to get me started would be greatly appreciated. Here is some of my specs

Asus RIIIF, i-7 950, 12gb trip chan gskill ddr3 1600 9-9-9-24, gigabyte gtx 470 super oc, SB xfi titanium pci-e, intel 80gb ssd for win7 x64, 3x seagate baraccudas for games storage etc., xion 1000w psu, cm hyper 212 plus cpu cooler wit extra fan. case- cm cm690 nvidia edition.

thnx in advance,
nick
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post #2 of 24
Welcome to OCN!

Have a pretzel




I have the same build as you and I actually came from the P5Q Deluxe on a C2Q (q6600)

If you are having issues with memory showing up I would do a memory test on each individual DIMM.

I had to RMA my R III F for a bad DIMM slot. Asus provided advanced replacement (They shipped to me first) so thats good to know if you have to go down that road.

I would also try to flash your bios if you can. what revision are you running now?
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latest bios i believe 0505 and i dont think its a defective dimm. its usually when i change cpu multiplier or uclk frequency etc... Im just not sure what to have enabled/disabled in the bios and the best manual settings to have everything running good just at stock speeds for now. 775 was so easy compared to this. I just wish i could get a template for what things should be set at to be optimized at stock speeds. when i run the windows experience index cpu calculations and memory performance are my lowest scores at 7.0 and. My core 2 quad 9400 and ddr2 1066 rated 7.4 i dont understand why this way better hardware seems to perform less.
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1 more thing i was unsure of.. when my memory is supposed to be set at 1.5v is that bus voltage or core voltage? Oh yeah. under the chipset menu in the bios there is the only 1 option something like intel virtualisation vdt for directed I\\O not sure if i should enable or disable that either
Edited by ny_nick - 3/26/11 at 11:35am
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post #5 of 24
I just got my RIIIF this past week , so hopefully I can help a little. You set the voltage for your RAM in the DRAM Bus Voltage within the bios. You also want to make sure that you set the correct memory timings for your memory and you do this in the DRAM Timing Control.

Have you checked your CPU voltage yet? One thing I did find out was that when I left the CPU Voltage on Auto for my i7 920 with a mild overclock, I noticed that it spiked the voltage up really high with really no benefit other than added heat. You might want to search around and see what the best voltage for your 950 at stock. You can then set that manually and when you are ready to overclock, you start upping your voltage.

I am still working on my overclock with the board, so let me know if you need anymore help.
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Ok for example, I read that the uclk frquency is double the memory frequency ie ddr3 1600 = uclk 3200 so i took uclk off auto and keyed in 3200 and ran prime95 within 1 minute had fatal error. returned uclk to auto and now p95 running fine.. also is 32c idle 50-60c on p95 load normal temps with a cm hyper 212 plus 32c idle seems a bit high but maybe im just used to my c2q 24c idle. and should things be set different for triple channel mem kit rather than dual?
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The first thing I would suggest is you read these two i7 9XX overclocking guides. They will explain a lot.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overc...beginners.html

Here is a handy calculator that you can use to see the relationships between BCLK, CPU multi, QPI multi, Uncore multi and Dram multi.
http://icrontic.com/files/apps/nehalem-calc/

If your ram voltage is rated at 1.65V then you need to change your Dram bus voltage to 1.66V.

If you have 12GB of ram you will probably need to change your QPI/Dram voltage to at least 1.35V.

You can use the below settings for a default 3.06GHz clock. Note that the below settings disable Hyperthreading and unless you have an application that will use it you do not need it anyway. When you are ready I can post settings for a 4.2GHz OC.

LN2 Mode: Disabled
QPI Loadline Calibration: Disabled
Sync Mode: Disabled
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
2D Performance Booster: Disabled
CPU Ratio Setting: 23
CPU Turbo Power Limit: Disabled
BLCK Frequency: 133
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: Auto
UCLK Frequency: Auto
QPI Link Data Rate: Auto
Memory Configuration Protect: Disabled

DRAM Timing Control: Everything is on Auto


CPU Differential Amplitude: Auto
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
IOH Clock Skew: Auto
Digi+ Pwr Mode: T-Balanced
PWM Volt. Control: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Auto
CPU Voltage OCP: Enabled
CPU PWM Frequency: Auto
Extreme OV: Disabled
Extreme OC: Auto
CPU Voltage: Auto (1.224)
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (1.812)
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: Auto (1.204)
DRAM Bus Voltage: Auto (1.601)
IOH Voltage: Auto (1.111)
IOH PCIE Voltage: Auto (1.508)
ICH Voltage: Auto (1.111)
ICH PCIE Voltage: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 23
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Intel HT Techology: Disabled
Active Processor Cores: All
A20M: Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Tech: Disabled
Intel C-STATE Tech: Disabled

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post #8 of 24
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Ok so on my rampage III F in my bios which i did reflash with the 0505 bios I don't have a lot of the actual qpi/mem/uncore multiplier options. But if I understand the calculator that you posted for me I can determine the multipliers by the frequency settings correct?
IE. setting your ddr3 freq to 1600 automatically gives you a mem mult of 12 and since the uncore clock needs to be dbl the mem freq that would give me a 3200 uncore clock which = a 24 uncore multiplier... am i correct? And this method applies for triple channel mem as well im assuming?
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Also still wondering. under the chipset sub menu there is 1 option intel vd-t for directed I/O should this be enabled or disabled?
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post #10 of 24
Asus does not let you set multipliers, you select freq.

So as an example with the calculator that I posted the link to; select the 950, leave everything at default and hit the calculate button. You have a mem multi of 8 with a mem clock of 1067, a uncore multi of 16 and a uncore clock of 2133 (twice the mem clock). You ram is rated at 1600MHz so if you change the mem multi to 12 this gives you a mem clock of 1600, but you uncore needs to be twice the mem so you need to change the uncore multi to 24 and that gives you a uncore clock of 3200. You can leave you qpi multi at 18 since that gives you a qpi clock of 4800 and that is more than the uncore clock and that is what you need.

So back to the Asus BIOS, you set your BCLK to 133 and your CPU multi to 23 and then you select the closest dram freq to 1600 that is available, you may see 1604, 1608, 1596 or whatever, just select the closest one to 1600. You select the closest UCLK freq (uncore) to 3200 that is available, but chose the one that is twice the dram freq you selected, so if you seclect a dram freq of 1608 you need to select a UCLK of 3216. You select the closest QPI link data rate freq to 4800 that is available, but make sure that it is higher than the UCLK freq you selected.

Hopefully the above made sense.

If you change your dram from auto to 1600 you should set your ram timings. Ram timings are under Dram Timing Control, highlight this setting and then press enter. The below are the timings for my 6-7-6-18 ram, you need to change the below to the 9-9-9-24 timing of your ram. Check the specifications for your ram and if it is rated at 1.65V then set your Dram Bus Voltage as close to 1.65 as you can get, 1.66V is okay. For 12GB of ram you may need to set you QPI/Dram core voltage higher, no higher than 1.35 to start.

DRAM Timing Control
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 6
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 7
DRAM RAS# PRE Time: 6
DRAM RAS# ACT Time: 18
2nd Information :
DRAM Timing Mode: 1N
All other dram timing selections are set to Auto

Regarding Intel VT-d under chipset, I left this at default so the only thing that I can recommend is to leave it at the default value, do not change it.

To give you an idea of voltages here are my settings for my 980X 4.44GHz OC.

LN2 Mode: Disabled
QPI Loadline Calibration: Disabled
Sync Mode: Disabled
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
2D Performance Booster: Disabled
CPU Ratio Setting: 27
CPU Turbo Power Limit: Disabled
BLCK Frequency: 164
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3 1644MHz
UCLK Frequency: 3287MHz
QPI Link Data Rate: 5919MT/s
Memory Configuration Protect: Disabled

DRAM Timing Control
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 6
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 7
DRAM RAS# PRE Time: 6
DRAM RAS# ACT Time: 18
2nd Information :
DRAM Timing Mode: 1N

CPU Differential Amplitude: Auto
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
IOH Clock Skew: Auto
Digi+ Pwr Mode: T-Balanced
PWM Volt. Control: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Full Calibration
CPU Voltage OCP: Enabled
CPU PWM Frequency: Auto
Extreme OV: Disabled
Extreme OC: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.82850
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.36875
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.66950
IOH Voltage (NB): 1.20575
IOH PCIE Voltage (NB): Auto (1.51)
ICH Voltage (SB): 1.20575
ICH PCIE Voltage (SB): Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 27
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Intel HT Techology: Disabled
Active Processor Cores: All
A20M: Disabled
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Advanced Menu: PCIPnP
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Edited by idahosurge - 3/27/11 at 4:26pm
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