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post #701 of 1832
yep the 850 psu i got are the km series not the km3 i was woundering is the 760 the same psu as the 850 then as the 760 is the km to ? or was the 760 different to the 850 km series some how ?

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Originally Posted by meridius View Post

yep the 850 psu i got are the km series not the km3 i was woundering is the 760 the same psu as the 850 then as the 760 is the km to ? or was the 760 different to the 850 km series some how ?

cheers

My new X-850 (850W KM3 with Hybrid switch) arrived this morning. I tested it with my cheap PSU tester and it fired up ok, all voltages normal. No coil whine but I won't be able to try it under load till I put it in my system.

Regarding your question, if this is what you're asking, it looks like the KM series has the same PSU connections as the KM3 series except maybe the main mobo power lead (not sure).
My X750 is the older KM type without the Hybrid switch and the Molex/SATA power leads are the same as as the 850W and the PCI-e ones appear to be the same, but they're all plugged in right now (SLI) so it's hard to check, and the main mobo one is buried at the back.

I looked at the Corsair AX750 pictures on Newegg and they appear way different - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016
You might want to check your PSU against the Newegg ones and see what matches.
FWIW the 760XP platinum matches my new 850W as well as the 750W (KM3) on Newegg.
post #703 of 1832
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Originally Posted by socketus View Post

No they aren't ! the graphics card and peripherals are differently connectored, is what I found by comparing my x-850 cables to corsair 850 pictures on Newegg

http://www.overclock.net/t/1203961/mt-corsair-silently-launches-individually-sleeved-cables/230#post_16868046

and this guy says only the sata/molex/peripheral cables differ on their connectors

http://www.overclock.net/t/1203961/mt-corsair-silently-launches-individually-sleeved-cables/190#post_16501543

ah that is what this is for http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g2/c133/s257/list/p1/Cables-PC_Tools-Crimping_Pin_Removal-Page1.html

+ multi meter ( you can use cheap one because you just need to test continuity [worse comes to worse])


also thanks alot. you saved me a couple weeks. i will be able to order the cable pin removal tools that i need at the same time lol. fyi i have heard the exact opposite from some reviewers, is it possible they have different revisions, i dont have the posts in front of me i researched it a couple weeks ago :/
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Originally Posted by ehume View Post

For cable compatibilities, you ought to write Seasonic directly. IIRC, The 24-pin connectors are wired differently but the other cables are compatible. But write Seasonic directly to be sure.
seasonic wont rep for corsair lol ( not trying to be offensive )

starting to read some of the links
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Looks very nice and the price, considering the work involved is good, but.. can you order a PSU from Corsair already with these ? I mean, as it is it's great for people like me who already own one of the PSUs compatible with the cables, but for people buying a new PSU now, it would be a nice idea to have the option of buying the PSU already with sleeved cables, saving you money. Being a low volume market, you would probably have to make a special order from Corsair, but I guess it could work.
I think the HX650, at least the current model, will be discontinued. The HX750 and HX850 are a CWT design and are 80 Plus Silver, while the HX650 is an older Seasonic design and is 80 Plus Bronze. Seasonic has newer 650w PSU designs, but from what I've read they are more expensive, and Corsair didn't want to buy that more expensive design.
yea it will take some modding ( swapping the connectors ) but meh. then i can individually sleeve the ones i want off color so that makes me have that fewer reasons to do that anyway >:O
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post #704 of 1832
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ah that is what this is for http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g2/c133/s257/list/p1/Cables-PC_Tools-Crimping_Pin_Removal-Page1.html

+ multi meter ( you can use cheap one because you just need to test continuity [worse comes to worse])


also thanks alot. you saved me a couple weeks. i will be able to order the cable pin removal tools that i need at the same time lol. fyi i have heard the exact opposite from some reviewers, is it possible they have different revisions, i dont have the posts in front of me i researched it a couple weeks ago :/
seasonic wont rep for corsair lol ( not trying to be offensive )

I'm thinking that all you have to do is to call AntronElectronics - this is the company that you can buy whole or individual PSU cabling for Seasonic models, among others, and they should be able to tell you what they have for cables will fit which psu. I bought a 2nd set of X-850 cables from them. But if you're talking about the Corsair AX-i models, they are made by Flextronics, and in fact, use a 14pin + 10pin layout for the mobo connectors, versus the old 18pin + 10pin. The older Corsair AX line - 650/750/850 - are discontinued and were built by Seasonic, and are the models that currently have cable sets for sale.

So don't mix your Seasonic PSUs and Corsair cable sets - for the older X line of Seasonic PSUs, the 24pin & PCI-E & CPU 8 pin do match the Corsair AX 650/750/850 cables, but the Peripheral - Sata cables do not match the Seasonic's psu side connectors.

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Socketus is correct: "for the older X line of Seasonic PSUs, the 24pin & PCI-E & CPU 8 pin do match the Corsair AX 650/750/850 cables, but the Peripheral - Sata cables do not match the Seasonic's psu side connectors."

Looks like Seasonic changed the mobo and PCI-e connectors between the KM and KM3 series, so I was mistaken earlier about them matching (couldn't see them clearly inside my case).

KM - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13113/psu-485/SeaSonic_X750_Gold_750W_-_SLI_Ready_-_80_PLUS_GOLD_Certified_-_Modular_Active_PFC_Power_Supply_SSX750G.html?tl=g11c26s85#blank
- appears to be same as the Corsair AX750 (see earlier link I posted)

KM3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016
post #706 of 1832
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- appears to be same as the Corsair AX750 (see earlier link I posted)

Apart from the Peripheral - Sata cables, of course.
post #707 of 1832
Wow ! that's a brain fart, the Frozencpu pic shows a 16 + 10 pin on that X750 ... wow. Man, keep it simple, Seasonic !! keep it the same. And that Newegg Corsair is old school with 19 + 10 mobo pin sets.

Jeesh, you really got to keep an eye out, plus you have to take into account the possibility that the pix may be wrong, but that's a huge difference - going from 18 pin to 16 pin, imho.
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What gauge is the x-760 gold km for

1 the sata cables
2 the motherboard and atx 8pin power cable

Cheers
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What gauge is the x-760 gold km for

1 the sata cables
2 the motherboard and atx 8pin power cable

Cheers

Only exposed wire marking I can see on my *X-750* KM is a red wire on a SATA cable - rated16 AWG. Eyeballing 8-pin power cable it looks very close or *possibly* smaller 18 AWG, similar for main mobo cable.
X-850 KM3, just unboxed, everything is 18AWG.

Not sure which model the X-760 is closest to, or if this helps smile.gif
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mmmm so the 760 model has better cables than the 850 strange. I can not make out the numbers but the cables on the 760 model look a littile fatter than the cables on the 850 which i found strange as you would of thought it would of been the other way round.

but by the sounds of it they must of used slighty thicker gauge wire on the 760 models to the 850 models which is weired I dont know if it would make much difference.


Just checked the cables.

all the cables in the 850 model are 18AWG every single cable including the motherboard cables.
all the cables in the 760 model are 18AWG apart from the motherboard and 8pin motherboard which are 16AWG

very strange as you would of thought the 850 would have some 16AWG in there.

I just pulled out my 760 and put the 850 model in using the 760 motherboard and 8 pin psu and SATA cables that came with the 760 psu as i hope this would be ok as i did not want to rip out all my cables to start againg just to replace the psu. so would this be ok to leave and use the 16AWG in there ?

also when i get my 760 back and build a new machine with it which is what i am planing would it be safe to use the 18AWG motherboard cable and 8 pin cable from the 850 modle on the 760 psu or would I need to swap them round.

oh and the 850 is silent so will be contacting seasonic to get the 760 replaced or fixed.

does anyone know if they will fix it or replace it as this model does not seem to be built anymore ? and what do you think they would do to a psu with a buzzing wine sound.

cheers.
Edited by meridius - 1/19/13 at 6:25am
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