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After replacing Firefox with Waterfox and using it for two weeks now, I have run into my first problem. Waterfox has somehow broken the Secunia Online Software Inspector at secunia.com. It appears to start a software scan, but never actually scans anything, and it never stops. Secunia supports 64-bit, but somehow, it's just not working.


~V
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Originally Posted by Ellis View Post

Is Waterfox 9.0 not based on Firefox 9.0?

Currently yes, however my understanding based on this:
Quote:
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Alright guys, here's my idea for Watefox 10, I'd like to get some peoples oppinion:
  • No more rapid release cycle. The first Waterfox.Next build will be 10.0.0. Any small updates will be 10.0.x and any major updates (such as overhaul of the UI or anything big Mozilla or I changes) will be 10.x.0

Is that for some reason Mr. Alex wants to stop basing the version number on the Official Firefox version numbers. So for whatever reason he wants to label Firefox 9.0.1 as Waterfox 10.0.0.

Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10.1.0, FF 10.0.1, WF 10.1.1, FF 11, WF 10.2.0 and so on.
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After replacing Firefox with Waterfox and using it for two weeks now, I have run into my first problem. Waterfox has somehow broken the Secunia Online Software Inspector at secunia.com. It appears to start a software scan, but never actually scans anything, and it never stops. Secunia supports 64-bit, but somehow, it's just not working.


~V


What type of application is it? Is it a plugin? A Java app?

 



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis View Post

Is Waterfox 9.0 not based on Firefox 9.0?

Currently yes, however my understanding based on this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAlex View Post

Alright guys, here's my idea for Watefox 10, I'd like to get some peoples oppinion:
  • No more rapid release cycle. The first Waterfox.Next build will be 10.0.0. Any small updates will be 10.0.x and any major updates (such as overhaul of the UI or anything big Mozilla or I changes) will be 10.x.0

Is that for some reason Mr. Alex wants to stop basing the version number on the Official Firefox version numbers. So for whatever reason he wants to label Firefox 9.0.1 as Waterfox 10.0.0.

Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10.1.0, FF 10.0.1, WF 10.1.1, FF 11, WF 10.2.0 and so on.


No, Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10, but from thereon, people don't seem to like the rapid release cycle version numbering. For example look at the huge differences between Firefox 2 -> 3 -> 3.5. That made sense.

That's not to say that the version numbering now doesn't make sense, but for the general user they won't know the difference between Firefox 5 and 8, whereas before they did with 2 -> 3 or 3 -> 4.

 

It was also just a suggestion and I did ask for feedback on it..

    
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No, Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10, but from thereon, people don't seem to like the rapid release cycle version numbering. For example look at the huge differences between Firefox 2 -> 3 -> 3.5. That made sense.

That's not to say that the version numbering now doesn't make sense, but for the general user they won't know the difference between Firefox 5 and 8, whereas before they did with 2 -> 3 or 3 -> 4.

 

It was also just a suggestion and I did ask for feedback on it..

Oh right, my apologies then - I assumed based on what you said that 9.0.1 would become 10.0.0.

In any case, personally I'd much prefer Waterfox stuck with the official Firefox version numbers.

In my opinion it keeps things simpler, because otherwise as I said you're going to have to look up which version of Firefox is equal to which version of Waterfox. At the end of the day some people don't like the rapid release cycle at all, but I don't see that as a reason for needing to change the version numbering.

If anything it'll make things more confusing for most people, especially any new users that come along and think you are providing out of date builds.

Thanks again for the time & effort you have put into Waterfox thumb.gif
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Okay, I've compiled 9.0.1 but have only released the update for it, has anyone running 9.0 got an update notification, and if they have was the update successful?
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAlex View Post

No, Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10, but from thereon, people don't seem to like the rapid release cycle version numbering. For example look at the huge differences between Firefox 2 -> 3 -> 3.5. That made sense.

 

That's not to say that the version numbering now doesn't make sense, but for the general user they won't know the difference between Firefox 5 and 8, whereas before they did with 2 -> 3 or 3 -> 4.

 

It was also just a suggestion and I did ask for feedback on it..

Oh right, my apologies then - I assumed based on what you said that 9.0.1 would become 10.0.0.

In any case, personally I'd much prefer Waterfox stuck with the official Firefox version numbers.

In my opinion it keeps things simpler, because otherwise as I said you're going to have to look up which version of Firefox is equal to which version of Waterfox. At the end of the day some people don't like the rapid release cycle at all, but I don't see that as a reason for needing to change the version numbering.

If anything it'll make things more confusing for most people, especially any new users that come along and think you are providing out of date builds.

Thanks again for the time & effort you have put into Waterfox thumb.gif


Well nothing is set in stone yet, and thank you for the input smile.gif

 

    
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Okay, I've compiled 9.0.1 but have only released the update for it, has anyone running 9.0 got an update notification, and if they have was the update successful?

I was not able to get an update notification even if I manually checked via Help -> About, it checked then simply said "Waterfox is up to date".

However, I was able to manually update using the command line updater method and the new update MAR, so I now have 9.0.1 installed and it seems to be working just fine. biggrin.gif
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Well nothing is set in stone yet, and thank you for the input smile.gif

 

No problem smile.gif
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After replacing Firefox with Waterfox and using it for two weeks now, I have run into my first problem. Waterfox has somehow broken the Secunia Online Software Inspector at secunia.com. It appears to start a software scan, but never actually scans anything, and it never stops. Secunia supports 64-bit, but somehow, it's just not working.



~V


What type of application is it? Is it a plugin? A Java app?


Quote:
Originally Posted by BMT View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellis View Post

Is Waterfox 9.0 not based on Firefox 9.0?


Currently yes, however my understanding based on this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAlex View Post

Alright guys, here's my idea for Watefox 10, I'd like to get some peoples oppinion:
  • No more rapid release cycle. The first Waterfox.Next build will be 10.0.0. Any small updates will be 10.0.x and any major updates (such as overhaul of the UI or anything big Mozilla or I changes) will be 10.x.0


Is that for some reason Mr. Alex wants to stop basing the version number on the Official Firefox version numbers. So for whatever reason he wants to label Firefox 9.0.1 as Waterfox 10.0.0.


Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10.1.0, FF 10.0.1, WF 10.1.1, FF 11, WF 10.2.0 and so on.


No, Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10, but from thereon, people don't seem to like the rapid release cycle version numbering. For example look at the huge differences between Firefox 2 -> 3 -> 3.5. That made sense.
That's not to say that the version numbering now doesn't make sense, but for the general user they won't know the difference between Firefox 5 and 8, whereas before they did with 2 -> 3 or 3 -> 4.

It was also just a suggestion and I did ask for feedback on it..
Oh right, that's great, because the rapid release cycle is the worst idea ever. They don't release anything rapidly, they just change the version number more often.
    
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What type of application is it? Is it a plugin? A Java app?


The Secunia Online Software Inspector at Secunia.com is a java applet. It gives a status report that says the applet has properly loaded. But, when I click the Start button, it does not scan. It never hits the hard drive, and the status does not show any activity, as it should.

~V

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After replacing Firefox with Waterfox and using it for two weeks now, I have run into my first problem. Waterfox has somehow broken the Secunia Online Software Inspector at secunia.com. It appears to start a software scan, but never actually scans anything, and it never stops. Secunia supports 64-bit, but somehow, it's just not working.
~V

This is why i didn't download this yet. As much i want to. I run Secunia like yours. Do you have a problem loading profile? Seems like Secunia are still working on it. Abode Flash Player REALLY needs to fix the exploit. They haven't done so.
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No, Firefox 10 will be Waterfox 10, but from thereon, people don't seem to like the rapid release cycle version numbering. For example look at the huge differences between Firefox 2 -> 3 -> 3.5. That made sense.
That's not to say that the version numbering now doesn't make sense, but for the general user they won't know the difference between Firefox 5 and 8, whereas before they did with 2 -> 3 or 3 -> 4.

It was also just a suggestion and I did ask for feedback on it..

I prefer to keep Waterfox version numbering concurrent with Firefox version numbering. Otherwise it'll be too hard to match up what got patched in the official build and what you added-on as supplemental patches.
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