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post #2821 of 7225
Have you tried playing the video with IE 64 bit? That would use the 64-bit flash as well. See if the same issue is there.
post #2822 of 7225
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Originally Posted by TheReaperWaits View Post

Anyone else get constant adobe flash 64bit crashes?

I upgraded my Waterfox to v13 PL1 about a week ago and now have started to experience the Adobe Flash plug-in crashing.

I've already done the obvious things: uninstalled and reinstalled Adobe Flash, tried different profiles and even installed Waterfox on another computer which never had Firefox or Waterfox installed.

I didn't have this problem with v12 so I may have to go back to that version (as it seemed to be the most stable for me) and wait for the next update/release of WF.

Rob.
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Done all of those steps. I even have a Gigabit Ethernet card. I'm pretty much knowledgeable in Networking so I can assure you that it's not the connection or speed that's the problem.
As I've mentioned earlier, Firefox (32-bit) and Internet Explorer (32-bit) doesn't have problem playing the same exact videos. This alone says it all, that WF (64-bit) is what's causing the problem. It's just that I/we don't know why it causes it. I hope you can help me.
Please also note that even though I let the Flash video download first (to prevent any potential buffering but it has never buffered) and then play it, the stutter continues. Again, this proves that the Internet connection is not the problem.


I've had the occasional stutter while playing flash videos as well and what I did was going back to the older version of Flash and now everything is smooth as it should be. Flash is demanding, but (for 480p and lower) it's not the hardware unless you're rocking with a 2004 single core. When videos stutter it's the Flash, only Flash and nothing but the Flash (did this sound right?) smile.gif . Now I'm using Flash v.11.0.1.98 and iirc even some of the 10.x.x versions provided a smooth playback so you might wanna try one of those. Newer versions of Flash are a lottery and I'd stay away from them unless there is a good reason not to.

My own stutter test is I open the video of Jamelia - Superstar on Youtube, set the quality to 720p, and while playing in a window i right click on it and select "Show video info". If the "video fps" stays at 25 for 30-40 seconds without dropping, that's it - you've found a "good" version of Flash for yourself. And yeah, some versions of Flash do stutter in some browsers, but I just picked the one which doesn't stutter in my main browser and ignored that fact. What can you do.

And for God's sake, turn that auto update off. smile.gif
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Is it network stutter or video stutter? If the latter, sounds like there's no vsync?

Apparently Firefox 14 final's supposed to be out today.
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Is it network stutter or video stutter? If the latter, sounds like there's no vsync?
Apparently Firefox 14 final's supposed to be out today.
look in ftp of firefox, I see 14.0.1, maybe many problems.. .mad.gif
post #2826 of 7225
Kevin, it sounds like there are compatibility issues between the 64-bit version of Flash and the video drivers for your laptop. I don't recall if you specified what video chip your system has. If you bring this issue up in the graphics manufacturer's support forum, you might get some helpful suggestions on some driver tweaks that might help the Flash stuttering.


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Originally Posted by farmers View Post

Your logic is good there, and it was obvious several messages back that your problem had nothing to do with your networking. However, you're missing one point when you say it only happens in waterfox. Since it's 64bit, that means you're also using the 64bit Flash plugin, so isn't it just as likely that the problem might lie there ? In fact, since it's a flash video this is happening with, I'd have been even more inclined to look at that. I'm not a flash expert, so I could be completely wrong here - maybe it's a bit of both, some sort of weird interaction between Waterfox and Flash.

Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post

Have you tested this:
-aero disable?
-UAC disable?
-accelerate GPU disable?
-all plugins and add-on without flash disable?
-with opera or chrome (because it is the same flash)?
-Add -p to end of a link, create a new profile.
My PC includes a Pentium 1.7Ghz and a nvidia 8400 with 128 mb; and I have no problem before 720p.

I might have to try all of these and see if the problem still persist. Of all those things you've mentioned, I already trued GPU Acceleration disabled and creating a new profile, but the problem is still there.
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Originally Posted by chilinmichael View Post

Have you tried playing the video with IE 64 bit? That would use the 64-bit flash as well. See if the same issue is there.

Have to try this as well.
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Originally Posted by Micko View Post

I've had the occasional stutter while playing flash videos as well and what I did was going back to the older version of Flash and now everything is smooth as it should be. Flash is demanding, but (for 480p and lower) it's not the hardware unless you're rocking with a 2004 single core. When videos stutter it's the Flash, only Flash and nothing but the Flash (did this sound right?) smile.gif . Now I'm using Flash v.11.0.1.98 and iirc even some of the 10.x.x versions provided a smooth playback so you might wanna try one of those. Newer versions of Flash are a lottery and I'd stay away from them unless there is a good reason not to.
My own stutter test is I open the video of Jamelia - Superstar on Youtube, set the quality to 720p, and while playing in a window i right click on it and select "Show video info". If the "video fps" stays at 25 for 30-40 seconds without dropping, that's it - you've found a "good" version of Flash for yourself. And yeah, some versions of Flash do stutter in some browsers, but I just picked the one which doesn't stutter in my main browser and ignored that fact. What can you do.
And for God's sake, turn that auto update off. smile.gif

Hmmm, I'll try that. I'm just boggled why the latest version of Flash works with no stuttering in FF and IE 32-bit.
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Originally Posted by virtualguy View Post

Kevin, it sounds like there are compatibility issues between the 64-bit version of Flash and the video drivers for your laptop. I don't recall if you specified what video chip your system has. If you bring this issue up in the graphics manufacturer's support forum, you might get some helpful suggestions on some driver tweaks that might help the Flash stuttering.
VG

Hmmm, I highly doubt this because I've tried many different driver versions for my GTX 560M GPU and the problem is always there. I'm at driver version 296.10 now (not the latest but the most stable for my laptop).
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firefow 14 is out, 14.0.1 exactly redface.gif
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firefow 14 is out, 14.0.1 exactly redface.gif

Nope not yet. Still being quality checked by Mozilla. Should be officially out in a few hours though.
    
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Having some problems with the website, Alex? xP


What laptop do you have, Kevindd? It seems odd that such an old driver is the only stable one for it o_O That may just be causing a little bit of your stutter problems, but who knows.
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