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Ok, loading anything with silverlight on the following system:

RemixedBeast Intel i53570K/16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600 RAM/Nvidia Geforce 650Ti/Samsung 840 120GB SSD/Windows Server 2012 Standard/Realtek GBE NIC

will make the GPU driver corrupt itself. after I load anything with silverlight, for example Bing streetside, I will have some parts of my windows GUI flip out like little chunks of the windows missing, some media player buttons on jriver won't be shown, there are parts of windows that get screwy like task mgr taking a long time to load, etc

only fix is to reboot.


This is getting annoying. This only seems to happen with silverlight content and firefox/waterfox. Yes it does it in BOTH browsers.
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I too had the update notification pop up twice once a day for 2 days. The update notification indicated it was the same build during each, but all seems fine now. I usually run through a few different sites and test as many plug-ins as I can during each upgrade through demos and other tools specific to any plug-in I have. I didn't see anything that seemed troublesome or had issues. I read about the problem with Bing Streetside and wanted to see if I had any issues, but I couldn't replicate anything based on the description given. I had no blocks or missing parts, whether in full screen or not, at least nothing that I noticed or required me to reboot. I did like the site though and appreciate the share if nothing else. Thanks again Alex!
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It loads as a video for me. Is it the video specifically that distorts or an image thumbnail? I can't seem to find an image file for the video specifically.
image thumbnail
see PM

 

I'll err, have a look into it.

 

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Ok, loading anything with silverlight on the following system:

RemixedBeast Intel i53570K/16GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600 RAM/Nvidia Geforce 650Ti/Samsung 840 120GB SSD/Windows Server 2012 Standard/Realtek GBE NIC

will make the GPU driver corrupt itself. after I load anything with silverlight, for example Bing streetside, I will have some parts of my windows GUI flip out like little chunks of the windows missing, some media player buttons on jriver won't be shown, there are parts of windows that get screwy like task mgr taking a long time to load, etc

only fix is to reboot.


This is getting annoying. This only seems to happen with silverlight content and firefox/waterfox. Yes it does it in BOTH browsers.

 

If you can reproduce it in Firefox, maybe it'd be good to submit a bug report to Mozilla directly.

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I too had the update notification pop up twice once a day for 2 days. The update notification indicated it was the same build during each, but all seems fine now. I usually run through a few different sites and test as many plug-ins as I can during each upgrade through demos and other tools specific to any plug-in I have. I didn't see anything that seemed troublesome or had issues. I read about the problem with Bing Streetside and wanted to see if I had any issues, but I couldn't replicate anything based on the description given. I had no blocks or missing parts, whether in full screen or not, at least nothing that I noticed or required me to reboot. I did like the site though and appreciate the share if nothing else. Thanks again Alex!

Interesting. I don't suppose you've got app.update.url.override set in your config settings?

Either way issues seem to be sporadic. I'm working hard to make sure aggressive optimisations aren't made on code that needs to be very stable or precise.

    
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Any chance you can pull the info from the Windows Event Log?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/226084-event-viewer-open-use-windows-7-a.html
I think I mentioned earlier, I have event viewer logs disabled... Was having security issues related to them, and that's all the more I can say about it without compromising my security measures again.

I will give the newest version a try since it's using a different compiling method, and Firefox never gave the issues Waterfox did, so I'm assuming the issues are caused by the compiling method.

[EDIT] Still causing visual crashes after it freezes, but now it's not taking the driver down, or crashing the system.
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Any chance you can pull the info from the Windows Event Log?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/226084-event-viewer-open-use-windows-7-a.html
I think I mentioned earlier, I have event viewer logs disabled... Was having security issues related to them, and that's all the more I can say about it without compromising my security measures again.

I will give the newest version a try since it's using a different compiling method, and Firefox never gave the issues Waterfox did, so I'm assuming the issues are caused by the compiling method.

[EDIT] Still causing visual crashes after it freezes, but now it's not taking the driver down, or crashing the system.

 

It's definitely a driver conflict issue. For some reason Waterfox freaks out when there are multiple GPUs in a system. I feel like this will be an issue until Mozilla update to a better backend. But for now I'm going to see where the crashes occur and see what compilation option affects it.

    
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Silverlight doesn't like a refresh rate that isn't 60/120hz. If you are running a 144hz monitor you may want to lower your desktop refresh rate to 120hz.
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It's definitely a driver conflict issue. For some reason Waterfox freaks out when there are multiple GPUs in a system. I feel like this will be an issue until Mozilla update to a better backend. But for now I'm going to see where the crashes occur and see what compilation option affects it.
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As per Mozilla’s classification, a critical flaw can be exploited to allow an attacker to run arbitrary code on the systems without any interaction from the user.
Glitches are potentially exploitable to run arbitrary code

Among the major fixes included in Firefox 37 there are two (CVE-2015-0803 and CVE-2015-0804) touching on type confusion, both credited to security researcher Nils, which could lead to use-after-free errors that generate potentially exploitable crashes of the web browser.

Abhishek Arya of Google Chrome Security Team reported two memory corruption crashes (CVE-2015-0805 and CVE-2015-0806) when the browser rendered 2D graphics. According to the security advisory, the trouble lies in the Off Main Thread Compositing platform.

Another user-after-free error (CVE-2015-0813) that could be leveraged to gain access to the system was reported by Aki Helin, who discovered it while playing certain MP3 audio files with the Fluendo MP3 plugin for GStreamer on Linux.

The issue resides in failure of the plug-in to properly handle some MP3 files and its interaction with code in Firefox.

Last on the list of critical vulnerabilities are memory safety hazards, which are constantly detected and repaired in Firefox revisions and are usually attributed to Mozilla developers.

Some of these issues could be exploited to attain memory corruption and Mozilla believes that a determined attacker could manage to create an exploit and run arbitrary code on the machine.
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Okay everyone, so a big announcement for Waterfox. Before I post it over at reddit, twitter, on the website, etc. I thought I'd share it with you all first, since OCN is a special place to me!

Please let me have your honest opinions, what you think, if it is bad/good etc, and any concerns that you might have and I can address and the likes!

 

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Waterfox 4 Year Anniversary: Giving back to Charity!

Hello everyone! I’m the developer of Waterfox, Alex. 4 Years ago on the 27th of March I released the very first build of Waterfox for everyone to try out. It was posted over at the lovely community of Overclock.net and since then Waterfox has become known around the world.

                  I never expected it to become what it has and I’ve embraced every success that it has made. I am proud to be part of the global Waterfox Community and the wonderful people that make it up. I really appreciate the kind messages and posts I see about Waterfox on the Overclock.net and Waterfox subreddit and I am so happy that even 4 years on, Waterfox is growing and making a positive impact on the web.

                  I’m very happy to announce a new idea for Waterfox: Charitable Giving!

What exactly is this?

                  Back in March 2014, I was invited to an event called Pitch@Palace, hosted in London. Various technology startups showcased their ideas and it was a great opportunity to collaborate with each other. I met some super people who had a great idea: Give the users of Waterfox the ability to donate to charities without them having to give anything directly. It means Waterfox could carry on expanding and everyone gets to contribute to a good cause! Initially I'll select the Electronic Frontier Foundation as the charity of the first month of release. In future releases I will be building functionality that will allow you to choose a charity of your own.

So how is this going to work?

                  We’ve created our own search engine called Waterfox Search that you’ll be able to beta test in the coming weeks. The idea is simple; carry on doing what you always do! Search using the Waterfox Search as you normally do with any other search engine and when you do your shopping online and purchase something by searching for it via Waterfox search, various retailers have chosen to donate a certain amount of your basket to charity at no cost to you!

Does Waterfox get anything?

                  That depends on the charity! We’ve spoken to a lot of them and each one of them decides how much Waterfox gets.

How can we be certain the money will go to Charity?

                  The whole process is going to be transparent. It means that Waterfox has set up its own company, Waterfox Ltd. The payments to charity will be managed through an independent bank that holds the money in ESCROW, meaning that the charity will always be paid and no foul play occurs.

How can we trust the search engine?

                  None of your personal information is kept (everything is anonymous). In fact, we don’t even ask for any (and none of your searches are stored anywhere)! The only thing that happens is that a cookie will be stored, which will hold the data for the charitable donation to be managed. That’s it!

That’s awesome! Where do I sign up?

                  In the next few weeks or so, Waterfox’s website will be going through a massive overhaul. When it is all done, you’ll be able to access a beta website to test out the search functionality and let us know what you think!

Does this mean Waterfox is turning into the big company?

                  Not at all! I will still be the only person developing Waterfox, giving support and just generally hanging about the Waterfox subreddit and support thread over at Overclock.net. I’ve just gotten some extra help from a good company with noble intentions to help get this off the ground.

As you know, Waterfox has gotten quite big and costs to run it are quite high and I've been struggling to pay out of pocket so I thought it's a great way to raise money for Waterfox without exploiting the community. Plus it's opt out, meaning you're not forced to use it and can carry on using whichever search engine you like.

I thought it's a much better way to approach things, than say the way Mozilla are introducing sponsored tiles and the likes. Please let me know what you think!

 

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Silverlight doesn't like a refresh rate that isn't 60/120hz. If you are running a 144hz monitor you may want to lower your desktop refresh rate to 120hz.

 

Haven't managed to test any exotic refresh rates such as those. What exactly happens?

 

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As per Mozilla’s classification, a critical flaw can be exploited to allow an attacker to run arbitrary code on the systems without any interaction from the user.
Glitches are potentially exploitable to run arbitrary code

Among the major fixes included in Firefox 37 there are two (CVE-2015-0803 and CVE-2015-0804) touching on type confusion, both credited to security researcher Nils, which could lead to use-after-free errors that generate potentially exploitable crashes of the web browser.

Abhishek Arya of Google Chrome Security Team reported two memory corruption crashes (CVE-2015-0805 and CVE-2015-0806) when the browser rendered 2D graphics. According to the security advisory, the trouble lies in the Off Main Thread Compositing platform.

Another user-after-free error (CVE-2015-0813) that could be leveraged to gain access to the system was reported by Aki Helin, who discovered it while playing certain MP3 audio files with the Fluendo MP3 plugin for GStreamer on Linux.

The issue resides in failure of the plug-in to properly handle some MP3 files and its interaction with code in Firefox.

Last on the list of critical vulnerabilities are memory safety hazards, which are constantly detected and repaired in Firefox revisions and are usually attributed to Mozilla developers.

Some of these issues could be exploited to attain memory corruption and Mozilla believes that a determined attacker could manage to create an exploit and run arbitrary code on the machine.

 

Don't worry 37 is on it's way! Mozilla have made an overhaul to the build system again and it's taking a while to get it compiling properly again :).


Edited by MrAlex - 4/3/15 at 5:15am
    
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to donate to charities
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to raise money for Waterfox
give me a sense of contradiction.

Is that a percentage is given to charities and the rest to Waterfox?

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The charities are the ones that select the % of the donation that goes to Waterfox.

Ok, sorry I jumped a paragraph when reading.
Edited by Mr6686 - 4/2/15 at 5:33pm
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