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Does WebGL run? I'm confused as to what's causing these crashes now.
Same thing was happening to me on 33.0.2 and to answer your question, any WebGL seems to completely crash Waterfox with this version.
Even things as simple as: http://get.webgl.org/

Reverted back to 32.0.3 and WebGL works fine.

This here is exactly the reason why I suggested assembling some people with virtual machines with known clean Windows installations to test out Waterfox. This would help chase down bugs and implementation issues.

 

Problem is VM's don't do well with 3D content at all. And ones that do need expensive workstations, so not the best cost-effective way to do it. Posting these beta builds though seems to be helping though, as I'm pretty sure I know what the issue is, just testing it out now!

 

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Did a fresh install of Waterfox 33.0.2 from the link above.
Made sure to delete all the files and folder that were still in the Waterfox program folder after I uninstalled WF 33.

Same crash as I had yesterday.

Verified that Firefox 33.0.2 does not crash on the same web page.

Crash happens as a web page is about to complete a progress bar box and then open the next page in their sequence.

Chas

 

Yes the build has resolved all the issues except the WebGL bug which I'm fixing right now.

 

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33.0.2? My version says its 33.0.3. Is that the problem? Is this not a stable version? Should I go back to .0.2?

 

33.0.3? Do you mean 32.0.3? That is that latest stable version you should be using. The builds we're talking about now are just for testing.

 

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I have the latest build 33.02 and after setting webgl.prefer-native-gl to "True" in about:config it at least stops the crashing.

 

This calls WebGL in a different manner and probably isn't the best way. I think I know what the issue is though.

 

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webgl.prefer-native-gl to "True" in about:config is not help for me, 33.0.2 still crash on get.webgl.org but about:support now works

 

That's interesting and about:support gets information from the graphics drivers which are causing the issues.

 

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i think that changing default values is not right way
also my card and driver not blacklisted (geforce gtx670 drv.344.48)

 

Yes it's not, but working on it!

 

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I must agree on that not being the right way to resolve the issue, but figured I would share all I found. I can't for the life of me find another article regarding 3 fixes for webgl and a java vulnerability that I wanted to ask if was included in this latest version of WF...will continue to hunt. I hope you resolve your issue ultimately.

 

It's not but I should have a working build out tomorrow if things go well. As for Java, if there are any vulnerabilities, it's Oracle's responsibility. Waterfox is up-to-date patch wise.

 

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WebGL is compiled with Direct3D9c SDK(the last, juin2010), the alone in Firefox. If you use WebGL, don't use waterfox, I never see stable when enabled.

 

WebGL has always working with Waterfox, just sometimes test builds go awry!

 

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why was removed multiprocess?

 

You can still enable it! Just follow this guide for example.

I had to remove the UI option though because if a user had a language pack installed, they wouldn't have that UI element defined so they'd get an error and not be able to access about:preferences at all.

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This feature isn't present in FF33, nightly only, maybe a bug.

 

It is present in FF33. Has been present for a few versions now, you just have to enable it manually. I added the UI part to make it easier to enable but it caused the issues above unfortunately.


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NoScript can also be set to globally block WebGL, which I set as a matter of routine.
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Problem is VM's don't do well with 3D content at all. And ones that do need expensive workstations, so not the best cost-effective way to do it. Posting these beta builds though seems to be helping though, as I'm pretty sure I know what the issue is, just testing it out now!

It's not even a matter of needing to extensively shake down 3D content, even simpler things like does WF crash with Java and Flash when going to major websites, or the get WebGL test.

Like I said, common use case testing in VMs known to be clean windows installs would be a big frakkin' help.
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Oh - right - I meant 32.0.3. But I'm getting multiple flash errors, especially with Gmail. Every time I close the browser there are flash error boxes up. I just close them, but I'm wondering what this is all about. No crashes, but sometimes a site will render as a sidebar instead of a tab. What causes that? I find that if I clear the history, it usually fixes it. It usually happens if I try to open a bookmarked video site while I'm in Gmail, then there is always a flash error box associated with it.
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Oh - right - I meant 32.0.3. But I'm getting multiple flash errors, especially with Gmail. Every time I close the browser there are flash error boxes up. I just close them, but I'm wondering what this is all about. No crashes, but sometimes a site will render as a sidebar instead of a tab. What causes that? I find that if I clear the history, it usually fixes it. It usually happens if I try to open a bookmarked video site while I'm in Gmail, then there is always a flash error box associated with it.


In this case, try to disable hardware acceleration: Menu > Advanced > General > (Uncheck) Use hardware acceleration when available.

See this if it will work.


This is usually works for anything related to flash player issues, such as FF and WF random crashes.
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Thanks, Kozmos. I should have known that. Had it unchecked in FF, but forget to uncheck in WF.
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Is it recommended to enable to separate process per tab in FF/WF?

Is it also recommended to disable hardware acceleration?
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I have tried E10S on nightly, and I'm sure, no E10S on FF33. I haven't multiprocess in task manager.
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Thanks, Kozmos. I should have known that. Had it unchecked in FF, but forget to uncheck in WF.

You are welcome.
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Is it recommended to enable to separate process per tab in FF/WF?

Is it also recommended to disable hardware acceleration?

In case you are facing troubles with much crashes, yes it is recommended to disable hardware acceleration.

Most probably it has something to do with flash player which triggers some issue with hard acceleration is ON.
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You are welcome.
In case you are facing troubles with much crashes, yes it is recommended to disable hardware acceleration.

Most probably it has something to do with flash player which triggers some issue with hard acceleration is ON.

How about the problem regarding wf slowing down when there are multiple tabs with flash content on them? Is that also an issue with hardware acceleration? And is it adobe's fault?
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How about the problem regarding wf slowing down when there are multiple tabs with flash content on them? Is that also an issue with hardware acceleration? And is it adobe's fault?

I faced this too with WF, especially with FB and youtube where you can find flash player is playing great role. I faced the same slowing down/lagging issue as well.

I tested this with FF 33.0.0/1/2 to see if it will be the same situation, but the problem has disappeared.

Also I would like to add that WF 32.0 was working fine with no slowing down with flash player contents.

Maybe it has something to do with compiling the newer version of WF?

OR maybe it has something to do with an addon (Ad Block Plus) is making some conflicts with flash player?

This is something I can't tell cause I did not test it.
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